View Full Version : What Is an American?
The Retard
05-06-2006, 04:07 AM
In 1782 Jean de Crèvecoeur published Letters from an American Farmer in which he defined an American as a "descendent of Europeans" who, if he were "honest, sober and industrious," prospered in a welcoming land of opportunity which gave him choice of occupation and residence.
What then is the American, this new man? He is either an European, or the descendant of an European, hence that strange mixture of blood, which you will find in no other country. I could point out to you a family whose grandfather was an Englishman, whose wife was Dutch, whose son married a French woman, and whose present four sons have now four wives of different nations. He is an American, who leaving behind him all his ancient prejudices and manners, receives new ones from the new mode of life he has embraced, the new government he obeys, and the new rank he holds.
He becomes an American by being received in the broad lap of our great Alma Mater. Here individuals of all nations are melted into a new race of men, whose labours and posterity will one day cause great changes in the world. Americans are the western pilgrims, who are carrying along with them that great mass of arts, sciences, vigour, and industry which began long since in the east; they will finish the great circle.
The Americans were once scattered all over Europe; here they are incorporated into one of the finest systems of population which has ever appeared, and which will hereafter become distinct by the power of the different climates they inhabit. The American ought therefore to love this country much better than that wherein either he or his forefathers were born.
Letters from an American Farmer (http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/CREV/letter03.html)
Excorcism
05-06-2006, 04:11 AM
1782 was a long time ago. I just don't see American nationalism under racial lines at all. I primarily see it under one's devotion to a country's ideals.
Fade the Butcher
05-06-2006, 04:15 AM
The definition has changed throughout history. Americans today are nothing more than people who possess U.S. citizenship.
Lionheart
05-06-2006, 04:36 AM
The definition has changed throughout history. Americans today are nothing more than people who possess U.S. citizenship.
Even this is no longer required. An "American" is simply someone who happens to live within certain geographical confines.
Dan Dare
05-06-2006, 05:04 AM
Ahm a Murkan (http://www.adcouncil.org/default.aspx?id=141).
Olin D. Johnston
05-06-2006, 05:05 AM
Dan, why did you have to post that? You almost made me throw up my dinner.
Starr
05-06-2006, 05:10 AM
Even this is no longer required. An "American" is simply someone who happens to live within certain geographical confines.
And this, of course, could include any third world savage who happens to come here. You don't even have to speak English. I also get a picture in my head of some fat, worthless sack of shit who watches niggers fight over a ball on their big screen tv, porn on their computer and Jerry springer.
Jofreidr_1488
05-06-2006, 11:47 AM
An American is anyone who holds citizenship with the Country known as the USA.
Notice the use of the word 'Country' and not 'Nation', which are two ENTIRELY different things.
In every-day life knowing that someone else is an American is of no value as niggers, taco niggers, and rice niggers can also be called Americans.
If everyone is my brother, then no one is my brother.
Janus
05-06-2006, 02:25 PM
An "American" is a "W.A.S.P.".
Zander
05-06-2006, 03:51 PM
Americans doesn't mean shit, bunch of mutt people with half english ancestry, a quarter german etc wtf dude...:rolleyes:
themistocles
05-07-2006, 12:54 AM
http://www.boomercafe.com/najarian/moon_flag.jpg
Crowley
05-07-2006, 01:13 AM
Nah, Americans are the whites in the USA. The rest are hyphenates. Either we claim the name American or we get "non-hispanic white" puke. Take your pick.
Starr
05-07-2006, 01:23 AM
the hypenated thing is interesting, in that it is obviously a way for non-whites to be able to hold on to their race and/or culture (and it shows how important this is to them). this of course gets the seal of approval from our society who also constantly tells whites to ONLY think of themselves as a raceless "american"
I have heard the phrase "white American" popping up lately, which could be a good thing.
Crowley
05-07-2006, 01:48 AM
I have heard the phrase "white American" popping up lately, which could be a good thing.
anything but "non-hispanic white". god what a hideous name that is and your regular American just laps it up without a murmur of complaint: sure, that's what we, the founders of this country are, a negative value, defined by what we aren't.
Donny the Punk
05-07-2006, 02:07 AM
Seems like fitting retribution for the stream of 'non-white' and 'anti-racist' I hear pour from your mouths daily. Perhaps I'll take it up.
Lenny
05-07-2006, 02:50 AM
Seems like fitting retribution for the stream of 'non-white' and 'anti-racist' I hear pour from your mouths daily. Perhaps I'll take it up.Would you prefer the terms 'colored' (or a more insulting non-hyphentated word) and 'communist' instead?
Americans are the whites in the USA.Yes, most people in the world think this and most whites & non-whites in the US think this pretty much subconsciously, despite all those ridiculous "I AM an American" commercials. The problem is, though, that "American" is not an overtly ethnic term, as (say) "Norwegian" is, so it leaves the door open for non-whites to get in.
An "American" is a "W.A.S.P.".The core American identity is Protestant yes. Even though only two-thirds of US whites are of Protestant background these days, this is still a Protestant country
Janus
05-07-2006, 02:56 AM
The core American identity is Protestant yes. Even though only two-thirds of US whites are of Protestant background these days, this is still a Protestant country I do not consider Italians to be "white".
Starr
05-07-2006, 03:00 AM
Are you talking all italians or the dark semitic looking ones that call themselves italians? Is someone like Fabio a mud?
Janus
05-07-2006, 03:03 AM
Are you talking all italians or the dark semitic looking ones that call themselves italians?I am talking about all Italians.Is someone like Fabio a mud? No.
Starr
05-07-2006, 03:05 AM
Why do you consider ALL italians to be non-white?
Crowley
05-07-2006, 03:06 AM
Seems like fitting retribution for the stream of 'non-white' and 'anti-racist' I hear pour from your mouths daily. Perhaps I'll take it up.
non-whites aren't expected to classify themselves that way on demographic surveys and applications.
Janus
05-07-2006, 03:29 AM
Why do you consider ALL italians to be non-white? They are not northern European.
Starr
05-07-2006, 03:37 AM
:rolleyes: I figured as much. And you have to be blond and blue eyed to be white, also, correct?
Janus
05-07-2006, 03:46 AM
And you have to be blond and blue eyed to be white, also, correct? No, you have to be northern European.
Starr
05-07-2006, 03:50 AM
I am northern European. I also have brown hair and eyes. Am I white enough for someone like you or am I a mud?
Janus
05-07-2006, 03:57 AM
I am northern European. I also have brown hair and eyes. You are "white". Am I white enough for someone like you or am I a mud? I prefer fair women.
Excorcism
05-07-2006, 05:29 AM
I am northern European. I also have brown hair and eyes. Am I white enough for someone like you or am I a mud?
I don't know.......post a picture :D
Evil_shah
05-07-2006, 06:42 AM
Amerikan= Jewish brainwashed fitlh
Helios Panoptes
05-07-2006, 07:09 AM
:rolleyes: I figured as much. And you have to be blond and blue eyed to be white, also, correct?
That is an arbitrary taxon.
Vindex
05-07-2006, 08:22 AM
Well I will take a White Italin over a black who was born and lives in North Europe.
The Retard
05-10-2006, 05:47 AM
With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.
This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties.
FEDERALIST No. 2 (http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fed02.htm)
Count Eustace II
05-10-2006, 02:06 PM
Italians certainly classify as WHITE. Haven't you seen Giada DeLaurentiis on the Food Network?
Granted, the Italians from Sicily and Southern Italy have drops of Moorish blood in them but to generalize all Italians as non-white is just ridiculous.
As for what's an American?? Well that depends if you're an American or a 'Merrikun.
Felix the Cat
05-10-2006, 06:00 PM
I don't like that clumsy term "non-white"
There ought to be a better word for these people
Lenny
05-10-2006, 06:39 PM
I don't like that clumsy term "non-white"
There ought to be a better word for these peoplehttp://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/what/099.jpg
Italians certainly classify as WHITE.They are "white" (mostly) but a lot of northern europeans certainly wouldnt consider them as a group, to be kin. with good reasons (ethnicity culture linguistic and religious)
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