Slavorum - Slavic heritage forum

[Imperial Trooper]

New forum for all you Slavs that want or need a rest from those silly internet Germanics :D kidding aside, it's about mythology and heritage stuff overall, but there's sections about everything including politics both right and left wing (and even liberal lol).

:google: www.slavorum.com

[sugartits]

any (other) members from here posting there?

[Warka]

I see a "Perun" there. Might be Boleslaw.

[sugartits]

Doesn't sound like him.

There is a female poster there already and she sounds pretty cool; Svätoslava

I'll sign up.

@Trooper what is your name on that forum and what is your heritage?

[Thomas_Sankara]

I checked it out; it's a really right wing forum, filled with nashi and slavic union types.

[Imperial Trooper]

I checked it out; it's a really right wing forum, filled with nashi and slavic union types.


Yeah, that's the trend these days isn't it? :D thought it's open for both political options.

[Józef Piłsudski]

Sounds like pan-Slavist trash :thumbsdown:.

[Thomas_Sankara]

Sounds like pan-Slavist trash :thumbsdown:.

and what's wrong with slavic unity? there are enough people out there who hate us that banding together for mutual protection is probably the best thing to do.

[calvin]

The Slavs are one of the great races of Europe. Celto-Teutons have much more in common with Slavs than they do with Meds (nothing against Meds either). With China rising, Africans flooding our homelands, and the financial assault by the trans-national oligarchy, it's a really great time to promote artificial distinctions between our racial kin.

[Thomas_Sankara]

it's a really great time to promote artificial distinctions between our racial kin.

I'd think that just over a majority of Russians would consider whites "racial kin", but that is increasingly becoming a minority opinion; Anecdotally, many now prefer to identify closer to asians than to whites:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasianism

and this movement isn't even relatively new.

[calvin]

I'd think that just over a majority of Russians would consider whites "racial kin", but that is increasingly becoming a minority opinion; Anecdotally, many now prefer to identify closer to asians than to whites

Russia is, for the moment, on the up, and it is normal that ascending nations create myths of exceptionalism. For many Russians this consists of distancing themselves from the ethnic and cultural kinfolk in other nations whom Russians are now eclipsing. The British historically identified themselves with the ancient Greeks and Romans and later created a mythos based on a gothic romanticisation of their own medieval past. The Nazis invented a myth of the Nordic superman. The Russian allusion to exotic Asiatic origins serves the same purpose as the previous myths. These myths assure believers that their ascendancy is naturally ordained and therefore permanent, and is not subject to the vagaries of fortune and cyclical historical changes. Ironically belief in these myths often leads nations to overlook the sound practices that were the basis of their progress.

"Many Russians" can believe that they are more Asiatic than European if they like, that does not make such a belief true. Many western Europeans think that Robbie Williams is a good singer, so what! It's pretty clear that Russian exceptionalism is motivated by a desire to cock a snook at the West Europeans who defeated them in the cold war. I bet few Russian felt very Asiatic when the Chechen headhunters were blowing up Moscow.

[Thomas_Sankara]

Many Russians" can believe that they are more Asiatic than European if they like, that does not make such a belief true. Many western Europeans think that Robbie Williams is a good singer, so what! It's pretty clear that Russian exceptionalism is motivated by a desire to cock a snook at the West Europeans who defeated them in the cold war. I bet few Russian felt very Asiatic when the Chechen headhunters were blowing up Moscow.

except Eurasianism came not from any romantic exceptionalism, but from a distaste of Europeans looking down on the Russians, and thus a desire and want to forge an identity based on our rather asiatic culture and more "swarthy" appearance. Russia is strongly influenced by the Turkic republics and Turkic peoples who settled the region in the Mongol empire period. I doubt they settled and then just decided to disappear into the dustbin of history.

[Józef Piłsudski]

and what's wrong with slavic unity? there are enough people out there who hate us that banding together for mutual protection is probably the best thing to do.
Many Slavic nations need protection from other Slavic nations. I would be all for an anti-Russo Slavic Union, but that's just as unrealistic as any other pan-Slavist pipe dream.

In reality the most concrete bond that Slavs have is a common linguistic heritage and that alone will not overcome a millennium's worth of historical differences.

Pan-Slavism is a joke.

[Errigal]

....

Pan-Slavism is a joke.

I'd say all those pan this and pan that movements are.

[calvin]

except Eurasianism came not from any romantic exceptionalism, but from a distaste of Europeans looking down on the Russians, and thus a desire and want to forge an identity based on our rather asiatic culture and more "swarthy" appearance. Russia is strongly influenced by the Turkic republics and Turkic peoples who settled the region in the Mongol empire period. I doubt they settled and then just decided to disappear into the dustbin of history

Go on then, tell us all about the unique "Asiatic" aspect of modern Russian culture? Was Vostok inspired by an Asiatic minaret or by European science?

[Thomas_Sankara]

Go on then, tell us all about the unique "Asiatic" aspect of modern Russian culture? Was Vostok inspired by an Asiatic minaret or by European science?

Vostok was based on Russian science, and thus is Eurasian by default. Western European nations, in their usual predictable pattern, are not going to steal my country's history as they have stolen so many other nation's histories.

[Transcendentally Challenged]

I'd think that just over a majority of Russians would consider whites "racial kin", but that is increasingly becoming a minority opinion; Anecdotally, many now prefer to identify closer to asians than to whites:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasianism

and this movement isn't even relatively new.

Yeah, and it even has 2 supporters already.

You and Dugin.

[Thomas_Sankara]

Yeah, and it even has 2 supporters already.

You and Dugin.

As if only dugin and I support Eurasianism; many many more support it then your pathetic nationalist movements, it's just not a media darling the same way your bevvy of leaders are. I don't support the political or economic aspirations of Duginist Neo-Bolshevism, I just think Russians are white, we're not asian, we're somewhere in between.

[Imperial Trooper]

Sounds like pan-Slavist trash :thumbsdown:.


I think it isn't, it's just a board for Slavs to hang out with exclamation point on Slavic heathenism and stuff. There's quite some Poles there actually...

I'd think that just over a majority of Russians would consider whites "racial kin", but that is increasingly becoming a minority opinion; Anecdotally, many now prefer to identify closer to asians than to whites:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasianism

and this movement isn't even relatively new.
http://www.seoboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/implied-facepalm.jpg

[calvin]

Vostok was based on Russian science, and thus is Eurasian by default. Western European nations, in their usual predictable pattern, are not going to steal my country's history as they have stolen so many other nation's histories

The post wherein Skankara displays his ignorance of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Vostok was a continuation of German rocket science. Germany been part of Asia for long then?

[Cadavre Exquis]

Vostok was a continuation of German rocket science. Germany been part of Asia for long then?
Tsiolkovsky, Korolyov, Keldysh - Germans, right?

[Transcendentally Challenged]

"Many Russians" can believe that they are more Asiatic than European if they like, that does not make such a belief true. Many western Europeans think that Robbie Williams is a good singer, so what! It's pretty clear that Russian exceptionalism is motivated by a desire to cock a snook at the West Europeans who defeated them in the cold war. I bet few Russian felt very Asiatic when the Chechen headhunters were blowing up Moscow.

no way in hell will Russians ever identify with gooks.

[calvin]

Tsiolkovsky, Korolyov, Keldysh - Germans, right?

The phrase "continuation of German rocket technology" does not assert the non-existence of either an independent Russian rocket development programme, or of an exclusively Russian contribution to Rocket science. Learn to read.

[Thomas_Sankara]

no way in hell will Russians ever identify with gooks.

Then you're ignorantly unaware of the Nazbols.

[Imperial Trooper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJduZHKUwF4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdSZT-JNI3Y&feature=related

[Warka]

Fake Slavs, fake everything.

[Transcendentally Challenged]

Fake Slavs, fake everything.
:vuvu: большой обезьянин'

[Imperial Trooper]

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[ubojica]

That forum is a good place for everyone who wants to honour the false and non-existent Slavic mithology.

As everyone and their cousin knows, there are no first-hand records for the study of Slavic mythology!

Everything we know about the pre-Christian Slavic religion comes from dubious sources (most of them non-Slavic).

These people at Slavorum are trying to imitate Germanic Odinism, and they are making themselves look like fools. Because it is not the Slavic way.

If you want to honour the shared Slavic heritage, than honour the Church Slavonic language and the Cyril-Methodius tradition.
Because that actually exists (unlike "Slavic mithology").

[Milesian]

That forum is a good place for everyone who wants to honour the false and non-existent Slavic mithology.

As everyone and their cousin knows, there are no first-hand records for the study of Slavic mythology!

Everything we know about the pre-Christian Slavic religion comes from dubious sources (most of them non-Slavic).

These people at Slavorum are trying to imitate Germanic Odinism, and they are making themselves look like fools. Because it is not the Slavic way.

If you want to honour the shared Slavic heritage, than honour the Church Slavonic language and the Cyril-Methodius tradition.
Because that actually exists (unlike "Slavic mithology").

Sadly, it's not just Slavs who have to contend with this nonsense.
If I see one more "Celto-Teuton" (whatever the hell that is) practising Asartu, or some "Druid" dancing around trees at Beltaine and sticking it to the Christian God, then I'll show them some authentic pre-Christian spirit.....

[Imperial Trooper]

That forum is a good place for everyone who wants to honour the false and non-existent Slavic mithology.

As everyone and their cousin knows, there are no first-hand records for the study of Slavic mythology!

Everything we know about the pre-Christian Slavic religion comes from dubious sources (most of them non-Slavic).

These people at Slavorum are trying to imitate Germanic Odinism, and they are making themselves look like fools. Because it is not the Slavic way.

If you want to honour the shared Slavic heritage, than honour the Church Slavonic language and the Cyril-Methodius tradition.
Because that actually exists (unlike "Slavic mithology").


Really? i guess these things carved up themselves...
http://www.slavorum.com/index.php/topic,666.0.html

and some chroniclers of ancient Europe, among them someone as Saxo Grammaticus were high on meth while writing Gesta Danorum as well.



Everything we know about the pre-Christian Slavic religion comes from dubious sources (most of them non-Slavic).

Right, and yet the bible is a very firm source for anything. Pagan Slavic idols are at least found all over Slavic Europe including your Croatia, while i haven't seen much of the jew-on-a-stick around Europe or anywhere else including his "magical" items.

[ubojica]

Lets put it this way, the Germanics have Beowulf, Prose Edda, Nibelungenlied etc., etc., written works in their original Germanic languages from which one can accurately reconstruct Germanic mythology.

Slavs have nothing of the kind.

95% of the stuff written in the Old Slavic language were Christian liturgical texts, and the other 5% were plain secular texts (laws, letters etc.). ZERO mythology!

If you want to read texts written in the Old Slavic language/languages, you will just have to get used to the fact that they were written by Christians and from a Christian perspective.

That is just the way it is.

[Józef Piłsudski]

Slavs having barbarism removed and replaced with civilization. Courtesy of Danish Bishop Absalon.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Bishop_Absalon_topples_the_god_Svantevit_at_Arkona.PNG/640px-Bishop_Absalon_topples_the_god_Svantevit_at_Arkona.PNG

Our ancestors were tribal savages prior to the arrival of Christianity. We were illiterate heathens worshipping false idols and trees.

In any case, Slavic paganism is all but gone. So called "neo-pagan" Slavs are nothing more than emo-faygs and Larpers who hate Christ because Mommy and Daddy forced them to go to Sunday school.

Typical Neo-Pagan:

http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue59/images/witch5.jpg

[Józef Piłsudski]

Really? i guess these things carved up themselves...
http://www.slavorum.com/index.php/topic,666.0.html
Oh wow a pagan idol. Thanks for pointing out so much about Slavic mythology.

and some chroniclers of ancient Europe, among them someone as Saxo Grammaticus were high on meth while writing Gesta Danorum as well. Myth: Most medieval chroniclers were on meth.
Fact: Most medieval chroniclers were actually on Jenkem.



Right, and yet the bible is a very firm source for anything.
The Bible is a very important source for ancient history of the southern Levant. It is also a source of Christian Revelation.


Pagan Slavic idols are at least found all over Slavic Europe including your Croatia, while i haven't seen much of the jew-on-a-stick around Europe or anywhere else including his "magical" items. The Crucifix and the Blessed Sacrament is found throughout Slavdom and is much more prevalent than any Pagan idol, rest assured.

[Warka]

ubojica and Józef Piłsudski have won the debate. Christ and the Slavic people are inseparable. End of story.

[ubojica]

Lets put it this way, the Germanics have Beowulf, Prose Edda, Nibelungenlied etc., etc., written works in their original Germanic languages from which one can accurately reconstruct Germanic mythology.

Slavs have nothing of the kind.

95% of the stuff written in the Old Slavic language were Christian liturgical texts, and the other 5% were plain secular texts (laws, letters etc.). ZERO mythology!

If you want to read texts written in the Old Slavic language/languages, you will just have to get used to the fact that they were written by Christians and from a Christian perspective.

That is just the way it is.

I will add one more thing...

The South Slavs (at least the Western ones) were baptised well before the time of Cyril and Methodius.

The Byzantine Emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus wrote in his De Administrando Imperio that the Croats were converted already in the 7th century, and he described the Christianisation with these words: "From that time they remained independent and autonomous, and they demanded to be baptised from the bishop of Rome, and bishops were sent who baptized them in the time of Porga their duke."


And this is something that reminds us of that period...

Višeslav's baptismal font

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/8071489/img/Anonymous/visk.jpg

[Imperial Trooper]

Lets put it this way, the Germanics have Beowulf, Prose Edda, Nibelungenlied etc., etc., written works in their original Germanic languages from which one can accurately reconstruct Germanic mythology.
All those books were written on folk orally transmitted legends. Beowulf storry was written in England around 10th century yet the story is set in Scandinavia many centuries earlier meaning again the author of such book has a firm stance? At least Saxo Gramaticus was a well known chronicler explaining the roots and methods in both Germanic and Slavic paganism unlike the unknown author of Beowulf and many others. Most lore comes from orally transmitted folk legends...the fact that you live in latinized Dalmatia who's settlers don't know what they are anymore at this point it doesn't mean in same time Slavonia peoples folk legends and old faiths don't have their weight.



Slavs have nothing of the kind.
They have, research better.



95% of the stuff written in the Old Slavic language were Christian liturgical texts, and the other 5% were plain secular texts (laws, letters etc.). ZERO mythology!
Folk lore.



If you want to read texts written in the Old Slavic language/languages, you will just have to get used to the fact that they were written by Christians and from a Christian perspective.
...and that makes it un-existent then? When someone writes a book about themselves as book of Veles it is a falacy because they wrote it themselves while when someone other writes it then it's from someones else perspective and yet again can't be taken for granted, and when folk lore is transmitted from generation to generation yet again that isn't good enough because it isn't written? Then what is, your excellence, a source? would a time machine would be sufficient?




That is just the way it is.
My hearth just broke over these facts you gave me. :rofl:

[Imperial Trooper]

I will add one more thing...
The Byzantine Emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus wrote in his De Administrando Imperio that the Croats were converted already in the 7th century, and he described the Christianisation with these words: "From that time they remained independent and autonomous, and they demanded to be baptised from the bishop of Rome, and bishops were sent who baptized them in the time of Porga their duke."
Maybe the countries leadership and high cast, thought the ordinary folk, doubtfully. Forms of pagan beliefs and superstitions are still found in villages.



And this is something that reminds us of that period...

Višeslav's baptismal font

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/8071489/img/Anonymous/visk.jpg
So what? Shall we build a McDonalds statue in a city and in 5000 years later claim all people followed the McDonaldism because of the found statue? There is no evidence of mass conversion of people from Pagan belief to Christianity, it's a process that happened through few centuries systematically by aggressive shitty church.

[Imperial Trooper]

Oh wow a pagan idol. Thanks for pointing out so much about Slavic mythology.
...where dafuq is your jews stick, point me out to your authentic stick relic remains?




Myth: Most medieval chroniclers were on meth.
Fact: Most medieval chroniclers were actually on Jenkem.

whatever



The Bible is a very important source for ancient history of the southern Levant. It is also a source of Christian Revelation.
:o




The Crucifix and the Blessed Sacrament is found throughout Slavdom and is much more prevalent than any Pagan idol, rest assured.
Yes, post 8th century onwards massively, i don't see thought any all-mighty-lords traits in Slavic Europe prior to that however i do see pagan relics. However i do have to notice most of the pagan beliefs and traditions incorporated into this new jew-on-a-stick religion that had no tradition (except the jewish ones about the oh-chosen nation) so it had to took elements of European paganism to adjust itself for the stupid sheep to follow it, and one of the sheep descendants i'm right now talking to.

[Gull]

Leave this to the russians or orthodox
Catholic slavs of wlach origin have nothing with it!

[ubojica]

Maybe the countries leadership and high cast, thought the ordinary folk, doubtfully. Forms of pagan beliefs and superstitions are still found in villages.

Well, there is no evidence for that... as there is no written source anywhere in that area mentioning anything about it.

The main religious battles in those days were over whether the liturgical language of the Church in Croatia would be Latin or Church Slavonic.

And superstitions are one thing, but a whole religion is a completely different thing.
Believing that a black cat crossing your path is “bad luck”, is not exactly the same as worshiping Perun, Odin, Zeus or whatever.




So called "neo-pagan" Slavs are nothing more than emo-faygs and Larpers who hate Christ because Mommy and Daddy forced them to go to Sunday school.

No.

These people got into "Slavic neopaganism" only because they saw the Germanic "neo-pagans".
They would never even got the idea if it weren't for this neo-Odinism in some West European countries.

A certain percentage of Slavs will always try to imitate everything they see among Germanics. It is a sort of inferiority complex.

[Gull]

No.

These people got into "Slavic neopaganism" only because they saw the Germanic "neo-pagans".
They would never even got the idea if it weren't for this neo-Odinism in some West European countries.

A certain percentage of Slavs will always try to imitate everything they see among Germanics. It is a sort of inferiority complex.


I agree with the first definitely, but it is close to them because once they've been the same with same affilliation, not because of inferiority complex.

[Imperial Trooper]

A certain percentage of Slavs will always try to imitate everything they see among Germanics. It is a sort of inferiority complex.


BS. What's with Christianization of Dalmatia then? Was that an inferiority complex as well? busting their asses to be accepted by the westerners and "civilized" Christians? We can see a similar behavior pattern among some Croatian Ustasha nationalists today as well, giving their best to sly inside west to be portrayed as the "westerners".

At least people at Slavorum try to reconstruct and research their own ancient culture, instead of applying someones else to be honest, so it's rather people like you with inferiority complex.



The main religious battles in those days were over whether the liturgical language of the Church in Croatia would be Latin or Church Slavonic.
That's post-Christianization.



And superstitions are one thing, but a whole religion is a completely different thing.
Believing that a black cat crossing your path is “bad luck”, is not exactly the same as worshiping Perun, Odin, Zeus or whatever.

There's plenty of toponims starting with Perun or being variants of it in Slavic lands, and there are alot of vallies named with derivations of name Veles, and in Slovenia the highest mountain is Triglav...indicating those people did worship their Gods when they settled those lands. Black cat supersitions isn't the only one, there are many that are directly connected to old pagan beliefs. Today we call them superstitions because of Christian church and it's learning, before they were the integral part of those faiths.

Besides here's a Croatian book on the subject, before continuing this "debate" with me rather spend a coin or two on it and then we can continue this "debate":
http://www.labin.com/web/fotovijesti/neobavezno_1792_v.jpg

[Gull]

BS. What's with Christianization of Dalmatia then? Was that an inferiority complex as well? busting their asses to be accepted by the westerners and "civilized" Christians?


I doubt that any of those, which you think of, western and "civilized" were christianized before Dalmatia. I think it happened few hundred years before coming of Slavs.
For instance saint Jeronimus, the author of first translation of bible to Latin was born in Dalmatia, city Stridon in 347. AD.

There is no Croatians without Catholic Church.

[Imperial Trooper]

I doubt that any of those, which you think of, western and "civilized" were christianized before Dalmatia. I think it happened few hundred years before coming of Slavs.
For instance saint Jeronimus, the author of first translation of bible to Latin was born in Dalmatia, city Stridon in 347. AD.

There is no Croatians without Catholic Church.


That's a ridiculous claim, they Croats, slavic people that came and settled the present day Croatia were already then established as a nation or at least a large tribe without any church. The illyrians, which are 90% of Dalmatians, today call themselves Croats. Maybe you have a different standpoint because of that, but real Croats are to be found in northern and western parts of Croatia and Neretva region of Dalmatia, while Dalmatians in general are Croaticized and Slavicized Illyrians, that could explain some of your standpoints about Slavic paganism and what is real or not etc.

[Imperial Trooper]

For instance saint Jeronimus, the author of first translation of bible to Latin was born in Dalmatia, city Stridon in 347. AD.


Yes, and that wasn't a Croat. Are you a Roman/Illyrian then or a Croat?

[Mackie]

even a reconstruction is better than nothing and it gives an interesting glimpse into what may have been. if i was a slav i would probably be very interested in the old religions but i probably wouldnt "have a go" at it given the fact that what passes for a defacto religion is just that, something that resembles what may have been but its not it.
like a facade of a burnt building, i can imagine what it must have been like but theres nothing left inside, not enough to comfortably live with anymore.
too many guesses, even if educated ones.

same applies to my opinion of finnic religions / paganism although those were never an exact science given the oral nature of how the beliefs were passed down to begin with.

[Sheza]

I love Slavic/Baltic women.

And I miss the good times with my ex.

This pointless and irrelevant post has been brought to you on behalf of Sheza Productions Ltd.

No part of it can be repoduced without prior permission of the author blah blah..

[Gull]

Yes, and that wasn't a Croat. Are you a Roman/Illyrian then or a Croat?

Croatia is modernist invention. During Napoleon era they (mostly other nationalities living in region of today Croatia) were arguing should it be called Illyria or Croatia. While French ruled it was called Illyrian provinces and "Croat" enlightment movement was called Illyrian movement or Illyrian revival. When Habsburg monarchy Austrio-Hungarian empire ruled it got name Croatia and stayed under that and joined all catholic folk on western balkan in one nation.

[ubojica]

There is no Croatians without Catholic Church.
This is a stupid statement.

Croatia is modernist invention. During Napoleon era they (mostly other nationalities living in region of today Croatia) were arguing should it be called Illyria or Croatia. While French ruled it was called Illyrian provinces and "Croat" enlightment movement was called Illyrian movement or Illyrian revival. When Habsburg monarchy Austrio-Hungarian empire ruled it got name Croatia and stayed under that and joined all catholic folk on western balkan in one nation.
That's bullshit.

The Kingdom was always called Croatia (i.e. Kingdom of Croatia, Slavonia and Dalmatia) and that was its title used by the Hungarian kings and later the Habsburgs.

As for the "Illyrian" movement, it was a pan-Slavist movement, and it used the term "Illyrian" because it wanted to unite all the South Slavs living in the area that the Romans called Illyria.

Remember that Ljudevit Gaj originally named his newspaper "Novine horvatske", but renamed them to "Novine ilirske" only after he became a pan-Slavist.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

As for the "Illyrian" movement, it was a pan-Slavist movement, and it used the term "Illyrian" because it wanted to unite all the South Slavs living in the area that the Romans called Illyria.

Remember that Ljudevit Gaj originally named his newspaper "Novine horvatske", but renamed them to "Novine ilirske" only after he became a pan-Slavist.
It was Napoleon, after Austerlitz he then marched into Vienna, eventually he proclaimed the New Illyria around Dalmatia.

[ubojica]

It was Napoleon, after Austerlitz he then marched into Vienna, eventually he proclaimed the New Illyria around Dalmatia.
Napoleon's "Illyrian Provinces" included almost the entire area of Slovenia, and some parts of Northern Italy, not just the (Southern) Croatian lands.



I agree with the first definitely, but it is close to them because once they've been the same with same affilliation, not because of inferiority complex.
It is an inferiority complex.
It is the same illness like the one among Eastern European liberals... this constant imitation of Western Europe...

These people want multiculturalism in their countries not because they think it's good, but because they see it in Western Europe.
They want fag parades; not because they think it's something positive, but because they see the same things in Western Europe.

Recently, my country started imposing sanctions against Iran. The official explanation: "West-European countries do the same."


The Eastern European left imitating the Western European left, and the Eastern European right imitating the Western European right... are two sides of the same coin.

[Imperial Trooper]

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[Gull]

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this is stupid, why slavens must look like medieval villagers and pillagers. They even look better as a communists than this crap

[Schizo]

The post wherein Skankara displays his ignorance of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Vostok was a continuation of German rocket science. Germany been part of Asia for long then?

The first rockets were created in China through the discovery of the gunpowder in response to the military needs of the great chinese civilization!

Hence this continuum starts in Asia (haha) not in Germany. And the whole western science is "continuation" of the ancient greek. So what? The russians were the first to send a man in the outerspace not the germans.

Unfortunately the gunpowder wasn't invented in Deutschland and the first contributions in physics and mathamatics weren't done by the ancient german Odinist philosophers and finally Gagarin wasn't from Swabia hence Vostok is "a continuation" of the human civilization not solely result of the almighty superhuman deutsche genius as you wrongly think. And the Pyramids are not in Carlsruhe or Bon. :(

[Schizo]

These people got into "Slavic neopaganism" only because they saw the Germanic "neo-pagans".
They would never even got the idea if it weren't for this neo-Odinism in some West European countries.

A certain percentage of Slavs will always try to imitate everything they see among Germanics. It is a sort of inferiority complex.
Yes. It is a type of psychological derangement, but not necessarily inferiority complex more like some puber trend or fashion. In some cases these slavens believe that germans are (1) some sort of higher creatures - rich, mighty, attractive and so on, and thanks to the (2) physical resemblance between germans and the slavens, the slavens (with their big heads) create slavic neopaganism to prove that "and we are like the germanen".

[NeoCornelio]

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Makes sense, but it would be more fitting to make that germanic poster the owner and administrator of the site, and to fill the ranks of the moderators with some members of eurasian extraction. That would be more coherent with the historical trajectory of your tribe: laboring as slaves under the Teuton & Turkic yoke.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

Yes. It is a type of psychological derangement, but not necessarily inferiority complex more like some puber trend or fashion. In some cases these slavens believe that germans are (1) some sort of higher creatures - rich, mighty, attractive and so on, and thanks to the (2) physical resemblance between germans and the slavens, the slavens (with their big heads) create slavic neopaganism to prove that "and we are like the germanen".
The Germanic culture consistet of several tribes and their era dates from 1600BC until 800AD. So, what and who are the West-Goths (Visigoths)? Any idea? Their domain conducts the terrirtory of the Gauls, lateron the Iberian peninsula. Look up the Migration Period of the Germanic tribes.. Important to notice is that the Roman empire once became loosing its ancient meaning during the Byzantinium, where in the East Roman empire Christianity formed Nova Roma with its capital in Constantiople. And since Croatians are on their today's territories since the 7th century already on behalf of the Romans, and they are a Indo-Germanic tribe, it became also congruent to get Christianised. In the 7th Century there were no Poles or Russians etc., no states really, but the area around today's Poland used to be named at that time the "White Croatia".

[Gregz]

Yes. It is a type of psychological derangement, but not necessarily inferiority complex more like some puber trend or fashion. In some cases these slavens believe that germans are (1) some sort of higher creatures - rich, mighty, attractive and so on, and thanks to the (2) physical resemblance between germans and the slavens, the slavens (with their big heads) create slavic neopaganism to prove that "and we are like the germanen".

The Germanics and Western Meds are a bit snooty and stuck up towards Slavs. However the Germanics aren't trying to turn you into little Germans and I agree with what you are saying about the Slavs.

Volkish Slavic neopaganism is kind of cool though. :cool:

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[ubojica]

The original pan-Slavist movement was largely a reaction to the German oppression of Slavs in the Habsburg monarchy... And now we see a Germanic section on a supposedely pan-Slavic forum...
O tempora, o mores!

The original pan-Slavists must be turning in their graves.

What's next?
A Jewish section on an Arab forum?

[Imperial Trooper]

The original pan-Slavist movement was largely a reaction to the German oppression of Slavs in the Habsburg monarchy... And now we see a Germanic section on a supposedely pan-Slavic forum...
O tempora, o mores!

The original pan-Slavists must be turning in their graves.

What's next?
A Jewish section on an Arab forum?


I was just trolling them. There's no Germanic section on that forum. :rofl:

[Imperial Trooper]

Makes sense, but it would be more fitting to make that germanic poster the owner and administrator of the site, and to fill the ranks of the moderators with some members of eurasian extraction. That would be more coherent with the historical trajectory of your tribe: laboring as slaves under the Teuton & Turkic yoke.

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:rofl:

[Gregz]

I was just trolling them. There's no Germanic section neither there will ever be one :rofl:

Slavs are like a battered wife, who can't leave her abusive husband. :bbbat:

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

Slavs are like a battered wife, who can't leave her abusive husband.
trollish generalisations - like the one you just uttered - make you appear to be a retarded snob, who is btw perverted.