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Ambrosio Spinola
05-28-2006, 10:08 AM
How European...


The INE, Spain’s National Statistics Institute has just published some interesting numbers about marriage in Spain.

Certain conclusions from the data are clear. Spanish women are getting married later, and that’s leading to a later age when they are becoming mothers.

The average age for walking down the aisle is now over 30 for the first time for women, and 33 for men. Compare that to the end of the Franco years when the women were 24 and the men 27.

The number of women to start a family over the age of 40 has doubled since 1997.

Why are Spanish women putting off marriage? Some say they are becoming more selfish, and want to enjoy the irresponsibility’s and freedoms of youth for longer, while others have a more serious take on the numbers.

The ever increasing cost of housing could be playing it’s part here, along with the unstable nature of the workplace. And more Spanish women want a career, and despite government initiatives in the area, this creates a conflict between work and the family.

The new numbers from the INE relate to 2004, when there were 216,149 weddings in Spain. Although it’s hard to remember sometimes, Spain remains a Catholic country, and most couples prefer to be parents inside wedlock. Despite that numbers show that more than a quarter of the children born here in 2004, were born outside matrimony.

There has been a slight recovery in the birth rate, now standing at 1.32 children per woman, but most of the recovery is due to immigrants who tend now to have larger families than the Spanish. And the experts say that the numerous Spanish families of the past are now just that, in the past.

Meanwhile those children born here are set to have a happier childhood. The Government has just announced a new National Infancy Plan. An end to corporal punishment and more spending on nursery education, so one in three children will have a local state nursery in three years time.

It’s a welcome move in early education in a country where 800,000 children are still watching the television after ten o’clock at night.

Bartholomew Roberts
05-28-2006, 10:33 AM
Disgusting and ridiculous! There is no need for any child to be attending any formal education whether it be a nursery or kindergarten until age 6/7. This push to place children outside the care of their mothers is also being pushed here in Australia by some PC thugs.

The problem with housing prices is correct. HOw can one start a family whilst still living at home with their own parents or in a small one-bedroom flat? Thanks to property speculators and investors, mainly of the baby-boomer age category, we have alot of thanks to give to these greedy arseholes for pushing our societies to the brink of collapse in so many ways only to ensure a comfortable lifestyle for themselves.

Ambrosio Spinola
05-28-2006, 10:53 AM
Since returning to healthy family values is an impossible within this society, its just logic that nurseries must get a boost as to have someone take care of the few children out there while both parents work their arse off to try perhaps to own an apartment maybe in the next 40 years.

Sulla the Dictator
05-28-2006, 11:00 AM
What happened to all those Conservative Spanish Catholics?

Ambrosio Spinola
05-28-2006, 11:09 AM
Spain is not in the 70´anymore Sulla. Spain has done a great effort to mimick the rest of western european nations. Even those who are Conservative Catholics are not free from the realities of this system where housing has skyrocketed and both parents need to work the whole week in order to be able to have a middle class life.

Jimbo Gomez
05-28-2006, 11:36 AM
Daniel: in a somewhat related manner: when are you gonna knock up your woman and assist in repopulating Spain?

Ambrosio Spinola
05-28-2006, 11:51 AM
Daniel: in a somewhat related manner: when are you gonna knock up your woman and assist in repopulating Spain?

Mynydd would not approve of my genetic contribution :D
How about you?

Eddy
05-28-2006, 02:06 PM
So you're dropping out of the race war?

Ambrosio Spinola
05-28-2006, 02:26 PM
Not at all, where did you get that notion from? Having a child is IMHO also something of responsability not to be taken on a whim.

Do you have plans for yourself btw?

Eddy
05-28-2006, 02:31 PM
Not at all, where did you get that notion from? Having a child is IMHO also something of responsability not to be taken on a whim.

Do you have plans for yourself btw?

I agree, but seeking to form a large and healthy family should be priority for anyone complaining about demographics.

As for ourselves, we do not have plans to have kids in the near future.

Ambrosio Spinola
05-28-2006, 02:33 PM
I do want kids, no mistake about that. I thought about three perhaps.

I guess you both still have time, can not remember well your age but my take is that there is still some leeway.

Jimbo Gomez
05-28-2006, 07:50 PM
How about me? I intend to have kids one day.