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Starr
02-13-2014, 06:52 PM
The horrible holocaust like offense he committed is in bold.

European Parliament President Martin Schulz came under fire Wednesday after making remarks in the Israeli parliament, the Knesset, about the water usage of Palestinians and Israelis in the occupied West Bank.

In his speech, Schulz said that when he was in Ramallah earlier in the week, a young Palestinian had asked him "why an Israeli can use 70 cubic liters of water daily and a Palestinian only 17?" He then added, "I haven't checked the data. I'm asking you if this is correct."

The remarks caused the Knesset to break out in turmoil. Right-wing Jewish Home Party member Moti Yogev shouted at him, "Shame on you, you support someone who incites against Jews." Yogev and Naftali Bennett, Economy Minister and Jewish Home party leader, then left the hall.

Bennett immediately took to his Facebook page: "I will not tolerate duplicitous propaganda against Israel in the Knesset … and especially not in German."

Likud Party member Moshe Feiglin, known for his extreme statements, was absent for the speech because, "it is inappropriate that a speech is given in the parliament of the Jewish state, in the language used when our parents were thrust into the railway wagons and in the crematoria," he wrote on Facebook.


http://www.dw.de/martin-schulz-under-fire-after-israeli-palestinian-comments-in-the-knesset/a-17427061

samiam
02-13-2014, 07:29 PM
So pointing out water usage rates in German equals putting folks into cattle cars and/or 'inciting' a pogrom? Notice how they never fail to break out with the crematoria. The comedy rights itself.

Starr
02-13-2014, 07:54 PM
Bennett immediately took to his Facebook page: "I will not tolerate duplicitous propaganda against Israel in the Knesset … and especially not in German."

I wonder when Germans will realize that no matter what they do and how low they bow, jews will always hate them and blame them throughout the generations, even though collective guilt is supposed to be evil? This guy should play their game and demand an apology for this hateful comment.

Rachael
02-13-2014, 08:15 PM
The remarks caused the Knesset to break out in turmoil. Right-wing Jewish Home Party member Moti Yogev shouted at him, "Shame on you, you support someone who incites against Jews." Yogev and Naftali Bennett, Economy Minister and Jewish Home party leader, then left the hall.

*shudder*

I get nervous when they feel defied.

Rachael
02-13-2014, 08:17 PM
I wonder when Germans will realize that no matter what they do and how low they bow, jews will always hate them and blame them throughout the generations, even though collective guilt is supposed to be evil? This guy should play their game and demand an apology for this hateful comment.

White men would desert him and he'd be over run and chopped to pieces. That's what white people do.

Starr
02-13-2014, 08:30 PM
In other articles, it looks as if this guy is considered a long time friend of Israel. So, where did being a perfect little puppet get, you Schultz? Is one Israeli even going to lift a finger to defend you? Somehow I think not.

Rachael
02-13-2014, 08:48 PM
In other articles, it looks as if this guy is considered a long time friend of Israel. So, where did being a perfect little puppet get, you Schultz? Is one Israeli even going to lift a finger to defend you? Somehow I think not.


Our entire major religion is based on the one message "with Jews, you lose", as detailed in the story of Jesus. No one is so blind as those who refuse to see.

Wodwo
02-13-2014, 09:16 PM
Bennett immediately took to his Facebook page: "I will not tolerate duplicitous propaganda against Israel in the Knesset … and especially not in German."


:rolleyes:

Schulz immediately took to his Facebook page: "I will not tolerate duplicitous propaganda against the EU in the the European Parliament … and especially not in Hebrew."


For some reason, I doubt that would fly over well.

Donau Schwaben
02-14-2014, 12:49 AM
I find it strange that the poasters in this thread are unaware of the fact that Martin Schultz is jewish,especially Raquel with her penchant for 'naming the jew'.
There is no love lost between Israeli politicians and left wing jewish European politicians and the use of holocost rhetoric is not unusual .

Wodwo
02-14-2014, 12:53 AM
I find it strange that the poasters in this thread are unaware of the fact that Martin Schultz is jewish,especially Raquel with her penchant for 'naming the jew'.
There is no love lost between Israeli politicians and left wing jewish European politicians and the use of holocost rhetoric is not unusual .

Martin Schulz isn't Jewish, otherwise, we would have heard this long ago, as such types (especially from Germany) can't resist trumping up their Jewish credentials for more PC-votes, especially a socialist candidate.

Schulz is simply a kike-alike.

Donau Schwaben
02-14-2014, 12:55 AM
In other articles, it looks as if this guy is considered a long time friend of Israel. So, where did being a perfect little puppet get, you Schultz? Is one Israeli even going to lift a finger to defend you? Somehow I think not.
It got Schultz into the position he is in now,ie,president of the EU.The reality is that European and AmeriKan jews wield the power in Europe not jews in Israel.

Wodwo
02-14-2014, 01:05 AM
It got Schultz into the position he is in now,ie,president of the EU.The reality is that European and AmeriKan jews wield the power in Europe not jews in Israel.

Don't do the Gregz dance:

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1253768&postcount=39


That is, where you accuse someone of nebulous ethnic origins without evidence or sources; it's extremely irritating, and makes people like Gregz look like an incredulous, batshit insane fuck. Don't let that be you too!

Donau Schwaben
02-14-2014, 01:12 AM
Don't do the Gregz dance:

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1253768&postcount=39


That is, where you accuse someone of nebulous ethnic origins without evidence or sources; it's extremely irritating, and makes people like Gregz look like an incredulous, batshit insane fuck. Don't let that be you too!
I am neither Gregz nor Raquel for that matter Wodwos and I have nothing against Gregz either.I am well aware of who Schultz is unlike los Amerkanos and that Awfulstralian troll Raquel.

Starr
02-14-2014, 01:20 AM
If Shultz was jewish, I would think the angry comments directed at him would reflect this. Someone would have called him a self hating jew or traitor,etc.

Mr. Moto
02-14-2014, 01:27 AM
If Shultz was jewish, I would think the angry comments directed at him would reflect this. Someone would have called him a self hating jew or traitor,etc.

http://www.plan-eu.org/content//uploads/2013/10/EP-President-Martin-Schulz-220x160.png

...After four years at primary school, from 1962 to 1966, Schulz attended the Heilig-Geist (Holy Spirit) grammar school, a private Roman Catholic school run by the Holy Ghost Fathers (or Spiritans) [2], in Broich (now Würselen), a district of the town of Broichweiden, for nine years...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Schulz

Donau Schwaben
02-14-2014, 01:37 AM
Martin Schulz isn't Jewish, otherwise, we would have heard this long ago, as such types (especially from Germany) can't resist trumping up their Jewish credentials for more PC-votes, especially a socialist candidate.

Schulz is simply a kike-alike.
Wodwos.There is a huge difference between a rabid anti semite that thinks every Stein is a jew and Bennet is a nice English surname.I might talk crap when I'm blathered but it is not often I'm far off the mark when it comes down to who is who in European politics.
Jewish meddling in US affairs is in ones face openly and brazenly .Otoh,jewish meddling in European affairs by European jews is an art form.Being loud,bras and brazen is not the European way.'Naming the jew' is tiresome and unproductive.Pointing out what needs to be pointed out is purely informational in the case of Schultz.

Donau Schwaben
02-14-2014, 01:51 AM
If Shultz was jewish, I would think the angry comments directed at him would reflect this. Someone would have called him a self hating jew or traitor,etc.
Why would you think this?Martin Schulz is hardly Norman Finkelstein.Getting ones 'facts' wrong in the eyes of the Israeli jews is no where near as bad as Finkelsteins critique of Israeli policy towards the Palestinians.Do you think that a non jewish EU president would have made such a gaffe if indeed it was a gaffe?I don't think so.

Donau Schwaben
02-14-2014, 01:55 AM
http://www.plan-eu.org/content//uploads/2013/10/EP-President-Martin-Schulz-220x160.png

...After four years at primary school, from 1962 to 1966, Schulz attended the Heilig-Geist (Holy Spirit) grammar school, a private Roman Catholic school run by the Holy Ghost Fathers (or Spiritans) [2], in Broich (now Würselen), a district of the town of Broichweiden, for nine years...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Schulz
Yes, a must read page when researching who is who.Is there something unusual about jews attending RC schools?

Mr. Moto
02-14-2014, 02:00 AM
Yes, a must read page when researching who is who.Is there something unusual about jews attending RC schools?

Please cite a reference confirming that Schultz is Jewish or admit that you were wrong. Thanks.

Wodwo
02-14-2014, 03:03 AM
Yes, a must read page when researching who is who.Is there something unusual about jews attending RC schools?

Whether it's Ahmadinejad the Azeri, Stalin the Jew, etc. what the hell is it with people on this forum that they speak their opinions as objective, concrete facts? :nuts:

Gregz and Banjo Billy are the worst offenders, but this is pretty fucking stupid too. :thumbsdown:

Rachael
02-14-2014, 06:24 AM
I find it strange that the poasters in this thread are unaware of the fact that Martin Schultz is jewish,especially Raquel with her penchant for 'naming the jew'.
There is no love lost between Israeli politicians and left wing jewish European politicians and the use of holocost rhetoric is not unusual .

Oh ok. :( so it was just a Jewish drama of some kind. :(

Donau Schwaben
02-15-2014, 10:45 PM
Please cite a reference confirming that Schultz is Jewish or admit that you were wrong. Thanks.
I'm having difficulty finding anything other than what wiki posts on most sites about Schulz.I will stick with my jewdar and bump this thread when and if I can find anything.I still stick by what I have said unless someone posts evidence to the contrary.

Gaear Grimsrud
02-16-2014, 03:32 AM
I'm having difficulty finding anything other than what wiki posts on most sites about Schulz.I will stick with my jewdar and bump this thread when and if I can find anything.I still stick by what I have said unless someone posts evidence to the contrary.Everything I've read says he went to Catholic schools growing up. Seems pretty unlikely that a Jewish kid in Germany would be sent to goyschule so soon after the 'Caust. Also, when he was going to school, there were less than 10,000 Jews in West Germany.

Donau Schwaben
02-18-2014, 04:24 AM
Everything I've read says he went to Catholic schools growing up. Seems pretty unlikely that a Jewish kid in Germany would be sent to goyschule so soon after the 'Caust. Also, when he was going to school, there were less than 10,000 Jews in West Germany.
Abe Foxman (http://archive.adl.org/education/holocaust/foxman_bio.html) was baptised and raised as a Catholic by his adoptive Polish Catholic parents.Does this make Foxman non jewish?
Pinning down anything certifiable on Schulz' upbringing and parentage is proving difficult.A common occurrence when trying to 'name the jew'.All media post more or less the wikipedia info.Born 1955,Catholic school(for four years)bookshop,married,two children etc,etc,etc.
However,all that he has said and done as an MEP is a matter of public record.His views towards Israel (http://www.whyisrael.org/2012/01/27/new-president-of-the-european-parliament-%E2%80%9D-first-responsibility-is-to-defend-the-jewish-people-%E2%80%9D/) and on the holocaust should be disconcerting enough.Does Foxman look more jewish than Schulz?Not in my book but then again I didn't know that Foxman was raised Catholic.Had I have known this,would I have said Foxman was non jewish and asked for proof that he wasn't ?In the same vein, American phorans are asking for proof of Schulz' 'jewishness'.Fair enough .The lack of information on the life of Schulz imo proves the point he is jewish based on suppressed information or info removed once Schulz hit the big time. Not uncommon in Europe as is the prevalence of name changing amongst jews in Europe more so than in the USA.

Donau Schwaben
02-18-2014, 04:32 AM
This is the wiki profile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naftali_Bennett) of Naftali Bennett.Nothing to hide here.

Gregz
02-18-2014, 07:39 AM
Not uncommon in Europe as is the prevalence of name changing amongst jews in Europe more so than in the USA.

Europeans Jews tend to be a lot more reserved than American Jews and the US is very different culturally from Europe.

Margaret
02-18-2014, 02:11 PM
Say a big 'thank you' to Martin Schulz (http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.574332)
Why are we debating the exact disparity in access to water between Israelis and Palestinians, if Netanyahu admitted his belief that Jews deserve more of it?
By Avraham Burg
02/14/14

http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.574048.1392287367!/image/1688872864.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/1688872864.jpg European Parliament President Martin Schulz

A bit of disclosure: First, to me, Economy Minister Naftali Bennett (Habayit Hayehudi) is one of the shallowest people I’ve ever encountered here in recent years. Give me Moshe Feiglin, give me Uri Elitzur, give me Shlomo Ben-Zvi, but spare me this hollow charisma.

Second, in my view, Habayit Hayehudi is a party of people who hate Arabs and non-Jews, of people who are eternally frightened, driven by the Holocaust and are, above all, horribly simplistic. If my father, one of the founders of the party that later became Habayit Hayehudi, were alive to see his political descendents in the Knesset on Wednesday (and not only on Wednesday), I have no doubt (to borrow the analogy so beloved by some of the Internet commenters so dear to my heart) that he would have died on the spot, if only to be able to turn over in his grave.

Third, I was the first Knesset speaker to allow a German president (the late Johannes Rau) to deliver a speech there in the German language. That speech was full of the love and humanity which are so rare in the Knesset plenum. It turns out that every language can be either beautiful or ugly, depending on the speaker and his worldview. On Wednesday, for instance, we saw Hebrew in all its ugliness. So what? Because of them, we should forbid speaking Hebrew in the Knesset?

And fourth, Martin Schulz, the president of the European Parliament, is a close friend of mine. On most issues connected to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict we disagree. He is closer to the Israeli mainstream, and his positions resemble those of Labor Party chairman Isaac Herzog. He once told me, during a frank and stern conversation, “For me, the new Germany exists only in order to ensure the existence of the State of Israel and the Jewish people.” He’s a brilliant intellectual and a thoughtful politician, and we don’t need to worry – he won’t give up his existential friendship so easily. And certainly not because of Bennett or his colleague Orit Strock, the party whip.

But if he sometimes needs to think a bit before he accepts the messages delivered by Israeli cabinet ministers, I’ll understand him, for Martin Schulz doesn’t come from that branch of the Bnei Akiva youth group I’ll call “the occupiers.” Nor was he a soldier in an elite unit. He’s a European public figure who learned in his parents’ home to stand up against all tyranny, evil and discrimination. He and his family were social democrats before Naftali Bennett knew anything about high-tech or how to shoot a gun, and even before Bennett’s parents moved to Israel. For him, equality is something he imbibed at home. The same as how Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu imbibed discrimination and victimhood at home.

But beyond these personal disclosures, we ought to be grateful to President Schulz. Perhaps the disparity in access to natural resources isn’t precisely what he was told in Ramallah. Perhaps it’s even greater or perhaps it’s smaller. But that is completely unimportant. What matters is that he did to Netanyahu what Netanyahu loves doing to others: He removed a few masks from the prime minister's arrogant, hysterical face.

“Those figures aren’t accurate,” the prime minister charged. “So what are the correct figures,” opposition members shouted back. What difference does it make?! What matters is that the prime minister admitted there are disparities between Jews and Arabs, between Israelis and Palestinians. So we’ve agreed on the principle; now we’re just arguing over the numbers?! Big deal.

I have no doubt that not many hours will pass before this newspaper's major talents, like Uri Misgav and others, make us much wiser about exactly how large this disparity is. But let’s get back to the principle. The current Israeli government, headed by that man of “moral confusion,” accepts the premise that the Jews deserve more. And this is the fundamental moral premise that is ticking like a bomb at the gateway to any present or future peace agreement. For only an agreement based on full equality has even the faintest chance of proving durable.

Now that the mask has been stripped from the face of the current Israeli government, a rare opportunity has arisen, if only for a moment, to think of an alternative to the built-in Israeli discrimination. For several years now, we – a joint group of Israelis and Palestinians with similar views – have been trying to formulate principles utterly different from the premises of separation, discrimination, exploitation and arrogance. And this is what we have agreed on so far:

Twenty years after the signing of the Oslo Accords, 47 years after the occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip by the Israelis and 66 years after the establishment of the State of Israel and the Palestinian Nakba, we have reached a stalemate in which there is no freedom for the Palestinian people or security for Israelis. We have not even come close to a just and sustainable solution of two states for two peoples. For all practical purposes, we all live under a single regime of discriminatory Israeli rule. In addition, many of us have given up in despair and are no longer capable of imagining any such just solution in the foreseeable future.

In an effort to pave a new path toward historic reconciliation and true political commitment between both nations, we must give up the view of the current solution that is based on many layers of separation, isolation and acts of built-in discrimination. We need to replace that solution with a completely different method and set of principles. Many of our members, Israelis and Palestinians, both here and in the diaspora, have reached this conclusion and, as a result, share a commitment and an understanding that it is both possible and vitally important. The purpose of these principles is not to propose practical, detailed solutions, but rather to lay out a completely different groundwork for a just and sustainable Jewish-Israeli and Palestinian partnership. Our starting point is founded in the belief that the fate of both nations is bound up in an unbreakable link; that the Jewish Israelis and Palestinians are part of the Middle East, and neither of them has a surplus of rights or exclusive sovereignty over any part of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

Therefore:

* Every person who lives (or has the status of a resident) between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea shall be assured equal personal, political, economic and social rights. These rights include: the right to protection and security; equal treatment without regard to sex, race, ethnic origin or religion; freedom of movement; ownership and possession of property; the right to bring a lawsuit to court; and the right to vote and hold elected office.

* The collective rights of Jewish Israelis and Palestinians - linguistic, cultural, religious and political - shall be ensured in every political setting. It is understood that neither side shall have exclusive sovereignty over any part of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea (including exclusive ownership of land, exclusive access to natural resources, and so on).

* All remaining exclusive rights possessed solely by Jewish Israelis, including ownership of land and access to natural resources, shall be abolished. All resources - material and political - shall be redistributed on the basis of principles of affirmative justice.

* The right of return of the Palestinians is an integral part of UN Resolution 194. The implementation of this resolution shall take into account the existing reality. The moral and political injustice of dispossessing the Palestinians in the past shall not be remedied by creating new injustices.

* The new political institutions shall make democratic immigration and citizenship laws. However, Jews and Palestinians who live in the diaspora will be able to receive immunity in situations of danger (according to UN resolutions) and will have special status in the process of obtaining citizenship in comparison with any other ethnic or national group.

Like many people, both among my colleagues and others, I believe with all my heart that mutual recognition based on these principles could advance a different political reality, in which memories of exile and being refugees would give way to a comprehensive realization of rights, citizenship and belonging. They would turn bereavement into life, and despair into hope. And so, I want to say a big “thank you” to Martin Schulz, one of Israel’s last and best real friends in the world.
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Starr
02-18-2014, 04:46 PM
And fourth, Martin Schulz, the president of the European Parliament, is a close friend of mine. On most issues connected to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict we disagree. He is closer to the Israeli mainstream, and his positions resemble those of Labor Party chairman Isaac Herzog. He once told me, during a frank and stern conversation, “For me, the new Germany exists only in order to ensure the existence of the State of Israel and the Jewish people.” He’s a brilliant intellectual and a thoughtful politician, and we don’t need to worry – he won’t give up his existential friendship so easily. And certainly not because of Bennett or his colleague Orit Strock, the party whip.

Did he truly say this? That is the kind of comment that should be met with outrage in Germany. Wouldn't that make Germany something akin to a slave state?

Philadelphian
02-18-2014, 05:11 PM
Did he truly say this? That is the kind of comment that should be met with outrage in Germany. Wouldn't that make Germany something akin to a slave state?

That is exactly what Germany, the rest of Europe and the colonies such as Canada, the US, and the Aussies are.

No man is a greater slave than a slave who thinks he is free...

samiam
02-18-2014, 07:56 PM
Did he truly say this? That is the kind of comment that should be met with outrage in Germany. Wouldn't that make Germany something akin to a slave state?
NO it is a 'big lie' and an excellent example of Chutzpah. The jew is protecting this guy from the other jews or if you want ginning him up to some of the other jews while defending him against the others. Why I do not know but he is running interference for certain. Perhaps this goy is useful to a plan the jew has?

Donau Schwaben
02-19-2014, 01:56 AM
Did he truly say this? That is the kind of comment that should be met with outrage in Germany. Wouldn't that make Germany something akin to a slave state?
Did you go to either of the two links I posted in post #24?

Donau Schwaben
02-19-2014, 02:19 AM
NO it is a 'big lie' and an excellent example of Chutzpah. The jew is protecting this guy from the other jews or if you want ginning him up to some of the other jews while defending him against the others. Why I do not know but he is running interference for certain. Perhaps this goy is useful to a plan the jew has?

Why is it a lie what Burg said?I claim that Schulz is jewish.The EU parliament,Commission, Council and ECB are all littered with jews.The Paris based European Jewish now operates a permanent office in Brussels (http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/European-Jewish-Congress-to-open-permanent-Brussels-office).
The European Jewish parliament (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4114730,00.html) is up and running in Brussels too.So,in the bastard country called Belgium,there exists three separate governments all rowing in different directions.

Below is an extract from an article quoting more pledges to Israel by Schulz.If you think these words to be lies too,feel free to access the EU parliament website for a list of all Schulz' speeches.

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A full week of meetings commemorating the Wannsee Conference in Berlin and the victims of the Holocaust came to a climax in Brussels on Tuesday night, when the newly-elected President of the European Parliament, Martin Schulz, gave an official speech. In his speech, one of the first as a newly-elected president, he stated that ”his first obligation as President of the European Parliament is to defend the Jewish people and the State of Israel.” The statement came in his opening address at the 8th Annual Holocaust Remembrance Day in the European Parliament, co-organized by the European Coalition for Israel.

The new president spoke from personal experience when he said that ”Germans born after the war are not guilty of what happened 70 years ago, but nevertheless responsible for remembering and passing on the remembrance to the next generation”. In a private interview with ECI on Tuesday night he explained that ”anti-Semitism is still very much an issue that needs to be monitored in Europe”. Earlier in the week he had taken measures to ban Holocaust denial in the European Parliament, a decision that was criticised by some, but applauded by others.
http://www.whyisrael.org/2012/01/27/new-president-of-the-european-parliament-%E2%80%9D-first-responsibility-is-to-defend-the-jewish-people-%E2%80%9D/

Donau Schwaben
02-19-2014, 02:32 AM
And so, I want to say a big “thank you” to Martin Schulz, one of Israel’s last and best real friends in the world.
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The internet is littered with articles like this.You have subtitled your post 'Martin Schulz honorary Jew'.This means nothing to those that seek a yay or a nay that Schulz is jewish or not.

Donau Schwaben
02-19-2014, 02:40 AM
Did he truly say this? That is the kind of comment that should be met with outrage in Germany. Wouldn't that make Germany something akin to a slave state?
Schulz might quibble over a few gallons of water with Netanyahu but does not raise a an eyebrow when Germany hands over to Israel five state of the art Dolphin class nuclear submarines,two of which are more or less free as part of Germanys ongoing guilt payments to Israel for its gassing of six million jews.How outrageous is that?

FinalWar
02-23-2014, 11:34 PM
I find it strange that the poasters in this thread are unaware of the fact that Martin Schultz is jewish,especially Raquel with her penchant for 'naming the jew'.
There is no love lost between Israeli politicians and left wing jewish European politicians and the use of holocost rhetoric is not unusual .

I guess u and rachael are in jew hell.