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Old 04-23-2012, 12:00 AM
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A poll at an FN friendly website asked if "you'd vote for Hollande to break apart the UMP", Sarkozy's party:


It's an early poll but it's interesting.

That sounds about right. I read around 40% of the FN would vote for Sarkozy, 25% of the FN would vote for Hollande, and the rest are undecided. Now, we get a better picture.
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A poll at an FN friendly website asked if "you'd vote for Hollande to break apart the UMP", Sarkozy's party:
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Yes (42%, 405 Votes)
No (42%, 404 Votes)
Don't Know (16%, 150 Votes)

Total votes: 959

It's an early poll but it's interesting.

Here's the result of the poll with many more people taking part:

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Non (45%, 2 144 Votes)
Oui (39%, 1 884 Votes)
Je ne sais pas (16%, 761 Votes)

Total votants: 4 785
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:47 AM
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About 80% of the enlisted voters have made their choice clear.

... – it is the first time in the modern era that a sitting president seeking re-election has lost the first round (in 1981 Giscard d'Estaing had more votes than Mitterrand, who eventually defeated him on the second round).
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But the shock has come from the fringes. Jean-Luc Mélenchon, the wonderboy of the extreme left, did not perform as well as predicted. Openly disappointed, he asked his supporters to switch to Hollande, but he will take advantage of any social unrest in the coming months to weigh in on the political scene. Underrated in the polls, Marine Le Pen has done better than her father: she has managed to gather 7 million people to protest against the system, against the elites, against the traditional parties, left and right, against immigrants, Europe and globalisation.

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[Hollande] also has to take into account the protesters, those people who used to vote on the left, now despair of traditional parties and found Le Pen more open to their concerns.

As for the incumbent president, he has no choice but to try and conquer back those voters who had voted for him five years ago and now opted for the extreme right. Le Pen will not express any preference – it's like choosing between the plague and cholera, one of her advisers commented last night. Immigration, security, protectionism: the conservative candidate will have to stick to rhetoric similar to the Front National to find a rebound.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...winners-losers

It will be two weeks of the other candidates trying to woo the FN. This is when the fun starts. This is why Marine Le Pen's result is good news.

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23 April 2012 10:06AM

The only 'shock' story is the ridiculous headlines being given out about the FN.

They got 18% of the vote.

82% of the electorate did NOT vote for them.

Why are the Guardian and others so intent on making headlines out of the wrong statistic ?????

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Well perhaps because
1) They got their highest share of the vote ever
2) They got 10 times the % vote of the BNP in Britain in 2010, so perhaps it is a bit startling to us mere mortals
3) It is the same % as the Nazis got in Germany in the 1930 election. Less than 3 years later they were in power.

So perhaps it is worth discussing? Particularly as the Hard left were boasting they were going to send LePen into political oblivion?
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