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Old 09-11-2006, 01:23 PM
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Let us summarize, then, what has been determined here of theses tested against the attempts of the masterful champion of Exterminationism, Approved Professor Egghead, to discount them:

1) The synoptic testimony of Hoess and Broad, as to Auschwitz deaths, was extorted and suborned, respectively, having been supplied to them, we reason, in view of the error, by a multiple, of the identical numbers, and in view of Hoess' self-admittedly mendacious and contradictory accounts of the origins of his "estimate," later disclaimed as such and in substance.

2) The unsigned Bischoff "letter" to Kammler of 29.1.43, wherein highly controversial reference is made to a "Vergasungskeller," is a clumsy forgery. Legitimate translations of the text involve the reader in a variety of otherwise inexplicable contradictions of the text itself and of the history and putative uses of Krema II.

And - less creditably - of theses tested against the efforts of the Holohoax clown, Globby:

3) The quoted characterization of the sentiments of Baer, last Commandant of Auschwitz, as to his never having seen, or believed in the existence of, gas chambers at Auschwitz, is a striking affront to the official story, and cannot be dismissed as such by reference to an alleged "statement" which represents an obvious attempt at an exculpatory legal maneuver rather than an historical account.
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Old 09-11-2006, 01:59 PM
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On the other hand, would you be comforted if S. started using a capital "T" such that "STD" fully conformed to your specification for an appropriate representation. I think that that is the way to go, all things considered. Why don't you ask him?
No Neo , I think good manners demand that you conform , it is not much to ask.
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So you were lying when you said:

"I did not claim that Hoess knew that the number given him was incorrect"

You confuse the issue for the readers, Globby. I wrote correctly that I did not claim that Hoess knew that the number was incorrect. I claimed that Hoess merely said that the number given him was incorrect.

The confusion is yours, NEO old boy. If he didn't know the number was incorrect how could he said he'd been given an incorrect number, as you claimed he admitted? He believed Eichmann's number was too high, but noted that he had ordered to destroy the documentation from each deportation and was going on memory.

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No, he didn't say he'd been given an incorrect number. That's your lie.

And perhaps you should give the readers the number of the message where Hoess is quoted as disbelieving the number he was given, allegedly by Eichmann.

Perhaps you should do some work yourself, rather than mindlessly reposting the same nonsense over and over again. You've added nothing to support your claims that Hoess and Broad were given numbers.

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He wasn't given any numbers. That's your lie.

Don't worry about that, Globby - the readers will see, in the quote, that he claims that the number was given to him by Eichmann.

You were talking about his own estimate old boy!! And Broad's. It's your fantasy. And you have no evidence for it.
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Of course the document outlines quite well the method which, in fact was employed. The able were worked to death, and the remaining, along with those not suitable for work were killed. Perfect correspondence.

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Wow! Big Time clown act, Globby. But nobody is buying it anymore, guy. flames deleted

Because you can't respond people shouldn't buy it!
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Old 09-11-2006, 02:20 PM
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Never forgive, never forget:

So he posts the same nonsense for the 8th time, pretending it has not been refuted. It appears that frustration is progressing to meltdown.


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Let us summarize, then, what has been determined here of theses tested against the attempts of the masterful champion of Exterminationism, Approved Professor Egghead, to discount them:

1) The synoptic testimony of Hoess and Broad, as to Auschwitz deaths, was extorted and suborned,

No it wasn't, and NEO hasn't shown any evidence otherwise.

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2) The unsigned Bischoff "letter" to Kammler of 29.1.43, wherein highly controversial reference is made to a "Vergasungskeller," is a clumsy forgery. Legitimate translations of the text involve the reader in a variety of otherwise inexplicable contradictions of the text itself and of the history and putative uses of Krema II. [/'quote]

But NEO hasn't shown any contradictions, just his ignorance of the letters involved and what they represent. Forgery is the claim all deniers make for evidence they cannot otherwise explain. Deniers, and I mean people of a far greater standing in the community than NEO, have offered one excuse after another over decades to explain this document. They've all been refuted, so all this left is the forgery card.

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3) The quoted characterization of the sentiments of Baer,

An anonymous quote without a source. Why would someone give any credence to a quote published in a denier newspaper, an unsourced quote, which itself must refer to another source unnamed?

Baer's official statement confirms gassing at the Auschwitz installation.
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:23 PM
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If he didn't know the number was incorrect how could he said he'd been given an incorrect number, as you claimed he admitted?
Not so helpful, this time, Globby, because the reader is probably ahead of you:

Lying/saying that the old ("estimate") number was incorrect, as to the truth of which he did not know or was not allowed to say, was his way of concealing the origins of the new number, also supplied to him and as to which he likewise was uninformed - if he did not realize that it was unspeakably a fiction like the first number, his "estimate" that was self-admittedly given to him.

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If he didn't know the number was incorrect how could he said he'd been given an incorrect number, as you claimed he admitted?

Not so helpful, this time, Globby, because the reader is probably ahead of you:

They're certainly ahead of you!

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Lying/saying that the old ("estimate") number was incorrect,

There was no lying.

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as to the truth of which he did not know or could not honestly say, was his way of concealing the origins of the new number,

This of course makes no sense whatsover.

And the source of his "new number" was him.

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also supplied to him

The same worthless claim you've been making all along. You can't tell us who, how, or why this would have been done. It's nonsense.
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:45 PM
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They're certainly ahead of you!

There was no lying.

This of course makes no sense whatsover.

And the source of his "new number" was him.

The same worthless claim you've been making all along. You can't tell us who, how, or why this would have been done. It's nonsense.
A nice reprise of the clown act, Globby, wherein you instantly respond, having given no thought to your response. And we understand your desire to continue with it.
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No Neo , I think good manners demand that you conform , it is not much to ask.

Dear Cerberus,

Please be so kind as to review messages #271, #276, and #282, in this thread.

I think they speak for me and STD, a moderator of this venue, as to the issue of "good manners".

Sincerely,

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If he didn't know the number was incorrect how could he said he'd been given an incorrect number, as you claimed he admitted?

Not so helpful, this time, Globby, because the reader is probably ahead of you:

They're certainly ahead of you!


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Lying/saying that the old ("estimate") number was incorrect,


There was no lying.

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as to the truth of which he did not know or could not honestly say, was his way of concealing the origins of the new number,

This of course makes no sense whatsover.

And the source of his "new number" was him.


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also supplied to him

The same worthless claim you've been making all along. You can't tell us who, how, or why this would have been done. It's nonsense.

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A nice reprise of the clown act, Globby,

Says the clown, who can't respond to any of the points.

No evidence, no rationale, no motive. Nothing but mindless claims.
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