Rehabilitating Hitler--Images

[Burrhus]

Why is that the first image of Hitler below is typical of the way he is almost exclusively portrayed? Why are pictures such as the second never shown in history books, films and other popular media? Perhaps because if he wasn't really the evil monster that mainstream history has made him to be, then maybe the holocaust story is less (or not at all) believable.

[ironweed]

Originally Posted by Burrhus

Perhaps because if he wasn't really the evil monster that mainstream history has made him to be, then maybe the holocaust story is less (or not all) believable.

I usually can't bring myself to post in this playpen, but I admit you've piqued my curiousity. Please explain how what appears to be staged publicity photo has any relevance at all to the truth of falsehood of a particular historical event.

As an aside, I'm kind of weirded out how much the little boy in the picture looks like my son does nowadays. Down to even the facial expression when he meets strangers for the first time. Not really afraid, but kind of apprehensive. Very weird.

Why are pictures such as the second never shown in history books, films and other popular media?

You're certain of this? I'm pretty sure Toland's biography has some pictures like the second one. I know I've seen them in books by mainstream historians at any rate.

[Fitz]

As an aside, I'm kind of weirded out how much the little boy in the picture looks like my son does nowadays. Down to even the facial expression when he meets strangers for the first time. Not really afraid, but kind of apprehensive. Very weird.

Why are you apprehensive? Do you think your little son is a Nazi after seeing this picture? Does he pull the puppy's tail or strangle the kitten when you aren't looking? Get a grip.

[ironweed]

Originally Posted by Fitz

Why are you apprehensive? Do you think your little son is a Nazi after seeing this picture?

Not at all. I'd have thought it weird in any context. Especially with that expression.

Does he pull the puppy's tail

Actually, yes he does, though our dog is far beyond the puppy stage. My son is 17 months old and not speaking yet beyond an occasional "DA!" A bit hard to reason with him when he pokes the dog in the eye or eats the dog's food or, yes, pulls his tail.

or strangle the kitten

Don't own a cat, but I don't think he'd do something like that.

when you aren't looking?

He hasn't gotten that far yet. He does what he does in front of us.

Get a grip.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

I'll leave you w/Mt 7-1:3 on that last comment.

[Burrhus]

ironweed: I usually can't bring myself to post in this playpen, but I admit you've piqued my curiousity. Please explain how what appears to be staged publicity photo has any relevance at all to the truth of falsehood of a particular historical event.

Burrhus: Perhaps because if he wasn't really the evil monster that mainstream history has made him to be, then maybe the holocaust story is less (or not at all) believable

My statement was a conditional if not/then maybe not, statement. Belief by those not familiar with the so-called evidence for the holocaust story is maintained in large part by the demonization of Hitler perpetrated in images. Bad logic in the manner of, Hitler was evil therefore the holocaust story is true. I am offering an alternative set of images.

Why does it appear staged? Because you are not accustomed to seeing such pictures?

Iron: You're certain of this? I'm pretty sure Toland's biography has some pictures like the second one. I know I've seen them in books by mainstream historians at any rate.

I should have said "I've never seen such pictures". I have shown these to many people who had also never seen this type of picture in mainstream sources.

[Burrhus]

[Fitz]

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

I suppose that I was being judgemental. I just didn't understand from your remarks, whether you were apprehensive for your son, or if your son looks apprehensive when he meets strangers.

Hitler wasn't the devil, and I thought that's where you were going with your comments. Best of luck to you and your little boy.

[Burrhus]

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[Ahknaton]

Originally Posted by Burrhus

Perhaps because if he wasn't really the evil monster that mainstream history has made him to be, then maybe the holocaust story is less (or not at all) believable.

Why is it inconceivable that a man who was good with children might also be a mass murderer?