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Old 05-17-2007, 02:02 PM
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Jews Are The Genetic Brothers Of Palestinians, Syrians, And Lebanese

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Science Daily — If a common heritage conferred peace, then perhaps the long history of conflict in the Middle East would have been resolved years ago. For, according to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, and they all share a common genetic lineage that stretches back thousands of years.
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FDR123 isn't gonna like this! Jews do however had European admixture, anywhere from up 5% to a 23%.
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They also brothers in their semitic, insane mythos.
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FDR123 isn't gonna like this! Jews do however had European admixture, anywhere from up 5% to a 23%.

According to Wikipedia "by tradition, a Sephardic or Mizrahi woman who marries into an Orthodox or Haredi Ashkenazi Jewish family raises her children to be Ashkenazi Jews, and a gentile who converts to Judaism and takes on Ashkenazi religious practices becomes an Ashkenazi Jew."

Essentially being an Ashkenazi Jew has little to do with the traditional concept of race itself; saying that Ashkenazi Jews are white is somewhat silly as tradition allows all Jews who convert or marry into Ashkenazi Jewish tradition to adopt the label. The fact that Jews are more genetically akin to Arab semites then they are Europeans due to selective breeding would also cast doubt on the claims of these racial purist 'Race Realist' Zionists slithering around The Phora...
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I fail to see how this makes the argument that Jews aren't Caucasoid, and I fail how it makes the argument that Italians are any different, as I've already proven that the same haplotype is found in both Italians and Jews.

The ashkenazis vary in their mixture. Some are more mixed, others less mixed. But they started inbreeding a lot after mixing. The most mixed of the Ashkenazis are the levite class.

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FDR123 isn't gonna like this! Jews do however had European admixture, anywhere from up 5% to a 23%.
Define a genetic "European." Give me the definition in clear and precise detail. There is no such thing, and there never will be such a thing.
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I fail to see how this makes the argument that Jews aren't Caucasoid, and I fail how it makes the argument that Italians are any different, as I've already proven that the same haplotype is found in both Italians and Jews.

You have not proven anything; but I would love for you to explain to me how Falasha Jews are Caucasoid? How about Kaifeng Jews? Are they Caucasoid?

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The ashkenazis vary in their mixture. Some are more mixed, others less mixed. But they started inbreeding a lot after mixing. The most mixed of the Ashkenazis are the levite class.

In other words they are essentially mixed race?

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Define a genetic "European." Give me the definition in clear and precise detail. There is no such thing, and there never will be such a thing.

Then why are you a pro-white 'Race Realist' (White Nationalist) if you do not believe in the genetic uniqueness of people of European descent?
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In other words they are essentially mixed race?
They are essentially Caucasoid.

If you would like to disagree with me, show me the scientific evidence that proves it. Otherwise, I will have to write you off as incompetent.

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Then why are you a pro-white 'Race Realist'
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if you do not believe in the genetic uniqueness of people of European descent?
Prove it. Prove to me that a Greek person is related to an Irish person. Prove it. They are both Caucasoid, but there is no "European" race.

Prove it. You can't. Realism means admitting reality. Italians are different from Germans. Germans are different from Russians.

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Old 05-17-2007, 03:58 PM
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They are essentially Caucasoid.

If you would like to disagree with me, show me the scientific evidence that proves it. Otherwise, I will have to write you off as incompetent.

How can they be Caucasoid if they are mixed race? Why did you decline to answer my question about the Falasha Jews? How about Kaifeng Jews? You have declined to answer that as well; why are you afraid to provide evidence for your claims especially when you demand evidence from your opposition for their claims?

Did you decline to answer the questions because your claim is so ludicrous you know that it would not stand up to scrutiny or challenge?

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No, you are not! You are nothing but a radical Zionist who found a door into the white nationalist movement to spread your poison.

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I agree with that alright!

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Prove it. Prove to me that a Greek person is related to an Irish person. Prove it. They are both Caucasoid, but there is no "European" race.
Prove it. You can't. Realism means admitting reality. Italians are different from Germans. Germans are different from Russians.

Nobody denies ethnic difference exist but they are part of the European peoples none the less. However, in your fascinating little world Caucasoid apparently includes Black and Chinese Jews.
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Note that I have twice asked Frank to define a genetic European, and he has twice failed to do it. This is because Europe can be divided into three areas: Southern Europe, Northern Europe, and Eastern Europe. Southern Europe tends to be mediterranean. So is North Africa, so is much of the Middle East. Northern Europe tends to be Nordic. Eastern Europe tends to be Alpinic and Dinaric. Jews are a mix of mediterranean and Eastern Europe in the case of Ahskenazis. With Sephardics, they are Mediterranean. I have defined a Jew. You haven't defined a "European" because there is no such thing.

And yes, I know there are Ethiopian Jews, and they are obviously of largely negroid blood. Bringing them up is a strawman. We are talking about Caucasian Jews here, not Negroid Jews.
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