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Old 03-25-2008, 12:49 AM
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Post Apocalypse of the Psychopaths

Greetings, Phorantians!

I am honored to be admitted to The Phora, and having taken Classical Greek, I was attracted to both the name Phora and to the Hellenic graphics. I already have friends on here who urged me to join and offer some posts.

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Belief: ORION: Our Race Is Our Nation.

Here is my Youtube site.

Jews hate me, and lie, twist, half-lie and change the subject all day long when I pound them for their pushy, whiny, greedy, pornophilic, Iraq-war-starting, "Holocaust"-harping, 9/11-organizing, illegal-immigrant-promoting, Martin-Luther-King-beatifying, "antisemitism"-shoving-down-our-throats mental disturbance. Unlike you and me, they are "God's Chosen People" -- which, if you or I claimed that, people would speed-dial 911 for "psych."

If militant Jews were like an insect, it would be a mosquito in your ear.

In fact, how odd of God to choose the Jews.

Shouldn't Jews look like this?






Instead, OY.




Other Israeli sympathizers, such as the two Jews who own Google, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, put the smears of BaconEatingAtheistJew et alia right on the first page of Google.



Bacon-Eating-Atheist-Jew. A real photo.


(A mere coincidence, I assure you. Jews don't stick together, naaah.)

Here is a mugshot of me. John de Nugent is my real name. The Marine has landed.



My topic on this thread is psychopaths. I was molested by them for years as a child. It made me very angry and messed up, until I got help at 49.

Since then, I have dedicated my life to tracking down psychopaths of all sorts, and I found out that they are also fouhnd in the higher levels of politcs, the media, big business -- and some of them are Jews. And some of them post on forums, spewing hate, racism, genocide and lies.

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I agree with Martha Stout, PhD, a 25-year researcher at Harvard Medical School. She wrote the 2005 bestseller The Sociopath Next Door. Four percent of Americans are born -- or suffer brain damage that makes them -- literally -- psychopaths. Perhaps three times that number are influenced by their anti-values, and very many are harmed by their hateful words and deeds.

Below are brain scans taken by Adrian Raine, PhD, graduate of Oxford and now a tenured professor at the very respected University of Southern California.

They show, first, a normal person's brain (mostly in red) and then the brain scan (mostly in blue) of one member of that tiny minority of psychopaths who ruin it for the rest of us, until we stop them.

A normal person does not derive enjoyment from hurting the feelings or dignity of another, or inflicting physical trauma or torture.

Here is the PET scan of a brain mostly in red, feeling a whole range of normal emotions (compassion, shock, horror, grief, revulsion). The subject is viewing a true photo of a terrible car wreck -- with fire, blood, brains, a deceased mother and the lives of children snuffed out.



Below, in mostly blue, the psychopath's brain on the PET scan is poor in empathy. However, we do see here some red areas that are "lit up." These are brain areas that experience excitement, amusement and pleasure – a rich and gloating psychopathic enjoyment of the agony and ruin of the innocent.



Martha Stout of Harvard University and U.C. Berkeley, and the late, great Hervey Cleckley of Oxford University, England, and Adrian Raine, also of Oxford, have written in great detail that [b]many psychopaths go into politics, CEO positions and into the mass media.

Dr. Robert Hare of Canada has done tremendous work in defining the problem of psychopaths who infest high leadership positions throughout society -- those whom he calls “Snakes in Suits.”

They are by no means “mentally ill,” and they are not “suffering.” They are often happy and successful, living a calculating, sadistic lifestyle as parasites. They are , in effect, a mutant life form, resembling physically a human being, but not psychologically. They feel no compassion for you as they cause your suffering; they cannot feel anything but intense joy at your misery.



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Here's an example, from another forum. (I just got here from it. I do not yet have examples on the Phora.)


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A thread was started by a Spaniard on the subject of the 2002 Israeli massacre of the Jenin Refugee Camp, near the Palestinian village of Jenin.

Even the Bush White House voted for a UN commission to investigate this atrocity.

From Wikipedia ("Battle of Jenin"):

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In late April and on May 3, 2002, the UN, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch released reports about the Israeli military incursions into Jenin. The reports documented that approximately 30 Palestinian militants, 22 Palestinian civilians, and 23 Israeli soldiers were killed in the fighting and thus found no evidence to sustain claims that a massacre took place. However, HRW did say that Israel "committed serious violations of international humanitarian law, some amounting prima facie to war crimes," while Amnesty International similarly alleged evidence that Israel had committed war crimes.



The Anti-Defamation League questioned how HRW and AI could both acknowledge the lack of a supposed Israeli massacre and the endangerment of Palestinian civilians by Palestinian gunmen and still maintain its accusation of Israel, and labelled the reports prejudiced.

United Nations efforts

The United Nations attempted an unsuccessful visiting mission, disbanded a fact finding mission, and ultimately issued a report based on its limited findings.

The United Nations visiting mission ordered by the UN Commission on Human Rights on 5 April 2002 and headed by Mary Robinson, ex-President of Ireland and UN High Commissioner for Human Rights was refused entry to Israel. A similar fate awaited the UN fact-finding mission.



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Now, here is where a psychopath comes in.

Here is what an American Jewish Israeli sympathizer wrote:

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Jenin was NOT a refugee camp..it was a bed of vipers and murderers. It was not "destroyed" but cleansed of its cockroaches. There was no "massacre" as the claims were proven to be phony canards of pallywood that useful idiots like you eat up (even the anti-semitic UN and the PA admitted there was NO massacre when confronted with the truth)...Other than that (and the fact that you site and anti-semitic lunatic fringe website in spanish, all is A-OK with you post.

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To which I responded:

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It was the holocaust of Jenin that got my apolitical fiancee into the anti-Jewish struggle, a pounding so horrific that even the Jewish-influenced TV out of New York could not take its eyes off it,. and showed us the horror.

Perpetrated by an Ariel Sharon so murderous that he had had to resign in disgrace 20 years earlier after he had perpetrated the Sabra and Shatila massacres in Lebanon, as determined by an Israeli commission.

Now THAT is one extreme Jew to bless Ariel Sharon and to justify a massacre that even the New York Jewsmedia found excessive.

Jenin inhabitants = less than cockroaches.

Thanks, Hank. I can use that post. I will copy and paste it all over.

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And that is why I have started this thread, to talk about psychopaths -- the discovery that explains human mis-history. And tells us how to fight them.

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I agree with Martha Stout, PhD, a 25-year researcher at Harvard Medical School. She wrote the 2005 bestseller The Sociopath Next Door. Four percent of Americans are born -- or suffer brain damage that makes them -- literally -- psychopaths.

I climbed a bookshelf when I was a small child, fell off, cracked my head open pretty good on a heating vent of some sort. I still have the scar, on my head.

Not saying this made me a psycho per se but I was always the type of kid that enjoyed thrashing the retard with ADHD or mocking the handicapped, well at least the born handicapped.
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I climbed a bookshelf when I was a small child, fell off, cracked my head open pretty good on a heating vent of some sort. I still have the scar, on my head.

Not saying this made me a psycho per se but I was always the type of kid that enjoyed thrashing the retard with ADHD or mocking the handicapped, well at least the born handicapped.

Well, if your post is in earnest, I salute your honesty!

It is a fact that a severe blow to the head can cause psychopathy -- or a brain disease, or being severely molested, or otherwise traumatized.

I had symptoms of severe PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome), and hundreds of violent nightmares, which were not fun either for wives or my kids.

The deranged Roman emperor Caligula both had a traumatic childhood AND caught a brain disease. While the public had very high hopes for the new young emperor, when he "recovered" and returned to the palace he was suddenly a monster.

Well, as I say, if your post is sincere, Germanic Ensemble, then I feel for you. Born psychopaths, so far, cannot be cured, but those made psychopathic can make progress.

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Caligula may have been a schizophrenic as well IMO, but he was abviously woefully unfit to be entrusted with the exercise of power. Welcome to the Phora BTW.
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Albert Einstein (1879-1955):
The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.

Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

Sounds like Einstein more or less "borrowed" Edmund Burke's well-known phrase!

But the point is important: the altruistic majority does not stop the psychopathic minority.

Why not?

--Fear of being harmed. (Think of witnesses who refuse to testify against a drug lord. Think of US senators who know -- as well as you and I, if only from it being on the Internet -- that 9/11 was bogus, but they fear the Jews will "get them" if they speak out, just as they got Kennedy for opposing Israel's atomic bomb.)

--Psychopaths, by controlling the media, books, schools, colleges, and even many churches, paralyze the altruistic majority mentally: How? They preach that evil is good, and glorify selfishness, materialism and Looking Out for Number One; they teach by their displays of power and retribution that the liberal New World Order is unstoppable --

-- so who wants to stick their neck out and be a martyr?

Beyond that, as we now know -- it was reported just a few weeks ago on the front page of all the newspapers -- our drinking water is full of estrogen (female hormone!) from excreted birth control pills, and it is full of excreted tranquilizers.

THINK ABOUT THAT!

Yes, THINK ABOUT THAT. We are drinking female hormone and tranquilizers!!!




Men, did you know you too are "on the Pill"?


Others tell me that fluoride in our drinking water also makes people passive.

And obesity -- stressed-out people overeat -- causes body fat to also secrete estrogen, even in men.

For all these reasons, we should NOT trash the decent majority and say, in cynical disgust (or cop-out-ism!):

"Look, good men are doing nothing! So why should I be the only one to care?" (First of all, you're NOT.)

That is a cop-out, and on some level we know it. God does.

In defense of the decent majority, it has not exactly been left alone!

While the psychopaths act for their agenda, they are also bombarding this "silent majority" every second with paralyzing toxic messages.

I recall, a few years back, a speech asing Americans where their outrage was. It was a lawyer's closing argument, given by actor James Spader on the TV series "Boston Legal." (YouTube has declared this video "not suitable for minors.")

Spader's character denounces the sinister Bush police state, the torture at Guantanamo, and the apparent apathy about it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdHtW_81kwg

You ask, "Where is the outrage?"

The Enemy, above all else, knowing how few he really is, being merely one part of the psychopathic minority of less than four percent in our population, is attacking the majority's EXPRESSION of the outrage it feels.

Job one, therefore:

Stimulate the volcano of OUTRAGE.


Mount Saint Helens, 1980.


Definition of "outrage":

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Resentful anger aroused by a violent or offensive act. (American Heritage Dictionary)

On a psychological and neurological level, how does one trigger the outrage that leads to open opposition?

Should we not also stimulate 1) the love of goodness, decency and of our nation, and 2) the heroism and courage, that are the values underlying action?

The values that causes the nation to not just fume, but also explode?

We need more love of good, and more hate of evil.

And we require what Thomas Carlyle, in the 1840s, famously praised as "hero worship" -- the glorying in heroes and a fierce loyalty to them when under attack. The Enemy knows that without leaders, all our values, all our love and all our violent hatred of evil, will remain unexpressed.

Leaders evoke what is slumbering in us all. Heroes evoke our own heroism.



On the night of Christmas Day, 1776, Washington led his men at night over the Delaware to subsequently attack mercenary forces of the British Empire. The military enlistments of his soldiers were expiring on December 31, 1776, and a series of lost battles and retreats had left morale dangerously low among the soldiers. Washington's move electrified the discouraged men. This has long been one of America's most famous paintings; it was executed in 1851 by German immigrant Emmanuel Leutze. Hail Washington! Hail his LOYAL followers! White America, for freedom unitedl!
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A comrade responded:

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JdN: another most excellent post. Who needs coffee when you can wake up to this?

I'm going to borrow the quotes below when I send out the photo album of [a comrade] at the anti-war rally in Hollywood to my long list of 'friends', some who are die-hard Bushies!

Anyway, you ask "where is the outrage"? Well, the outrage disappeared as soon as the Writers Guild went off strike and the new sitcoms and evening dramas were back on TV - the masses have their opium, they can sit back and relax, all is well with the world. If it's not, the writers will fix it.....

REVOLUTION!!

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I wrote back:

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Dear Henry,

My most excellent thanks!

But Heinz, you are all wet. People are not happy; they are miserable. You just have to study body language, and how people frantically over-eat, over-booze, over-spend, over-risk and over-sex. They're even frantically text-messaging while they drive! Risking their lives to babble!

Never has Henry David Thoreau's dictum been more true than right now:

"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation."

Their body language screams it. I started studying body semiotics when I was training to be a Marine interrogator in 1977, and the art and science of body language has advanced a lot since then; I have followed it. Cameras can now capture the revealing nano-movements, the micro-twitches of peoples' facial muscles, especially of those around the eyes.

The Folk is miserable, and the Folk is mad. They don't even realize how much. But I do; I engage everyone in conversation, and as long as you lead into it right, the Folk is ready. But most of us have no training at all in depth psychology.

My gut says every morning: We shall overcome. White civil rights are the way to go, and the way to stay. The Tribe is forming. My first allies are arriving in Pittsburgh. The Obamanation ("my grandmother was a typical white person"), Strident Lesbillary and sad-sack Methuselah McCain are sagging like gas bags that have finished spurting around the room. Who can blow them up again?

The bloom is off all the Jews' roses.

Our hour is coming. Our genes are still GREAT. The finest white blood of Europe -- its most violent, and adventurous -- the Teuton, Kelt, Slav and Mediterranean -- has coalesced here for centuries to form a gene pool of 180 million Aryans, the largest in the world, and we have the First and Second Amendments that still are revered icons.

The enemy's self-trap is that he has himself made guns and free speech into America's most sacred cows. Here in Pennsylvania the cows and bulls are alive and kicking.

Like Adam reaching out his hand to God the Creator in the Michelangelo' s Sixtine Chapel, we reach out our hands, and the Great Heroes of old, they reach down and touch ours. They too knew what darkness and despair are, and they persisted.

Let us cross the Delaware.


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It made me very angry and messed up, until I got help at 49.
This gentleman is already got help.

Merely thinking about his state of mind a few years ago makes me shiver...
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Dr. Robert Hare of Canada has done tremendous work in defining the problem of psychopaths who infest high leadership positions throughout society -- those whom he calls “Snakes in Suits.”
Hello John de Nugent.

I have a question.

Do you believe that most, possibly nearly all, people in very high positions - CEOs of multinationals, presidential-candidate level politicians, etc, are at least somewhat psychopathic or sociopathic?

I mean, even in small and mid-sized companies I find the majority of who tend to rise to the top are pretty slick and not very down-to-earth. They're not necessarily bad people but seem to be so utterly focused on the outlines and milestones of power and achievement, while ignoring the details of life that the rest of us always find so entertaining and captivating and sometimes funny and sometimes beautiful.

How much more so for those at the really stratospheric positions?
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Welcome Mr. John de Nugent ...

Wonderful posts as always. Glad to see that you've made it to The Phora finally. Looking forward to reading many more of your posts in the future


On the discussion of 'Estrogen in the water' I just actually posted about it under "Puberty hitting Faster" in the 'Physical Anthropology' section. You should check the discussion out and continue with further details.
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