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Old 04-16-2014, 07:53 AM
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Question Do Women ever deserve to have been raped

To clarify, I don't mean "should women be raped as a punishment" or form of penance, but rather, is it ever a woman's fault that she is raped, or is it ever a woman's fault for enticing a man into the position where he feels he was 'led on', even if the court wouldn't see it that way? Could a woman ever be blamed for the actions of a rapist, if the rapist was led to believe a certain conclusion was forthcoming, only for it to be withdrawn? Or what if she's walking in a high skirt in a dark alley in a place like ,South Africa or Chicago for instance?

In other words, are the current definitions about rape correct? If so, why do you think? And if not, who has the correct idea on rape? Which religion, or ideological faction could lay claim to the solution to sexual violence?
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:15 AM
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Of course not, what a stupid pathetic question. The fact that you even thought of it, let alone posted such a question shows that you are a depraved degenerate lunatic
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:16 AM
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Of course not, what a stupid pathetic question. The fact that you even thought of it, let alone posted such a question shows that you are a depraved lunatic

You obviously didn't even read the question, if you think that. No one was advocating rape anywhere.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:30 AM
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You obviously didn't even read the question, if you think that. No one was advocating rape anywhere.
Actually I did read it. What will be your reply to anyone that says yes?
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:43 AM
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Actually I did read it. What will be your reply to anyone that says yes?

"Thanks for your opinion"?
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:48 AM
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is it ever a woman's fault that she is raped, or is it ever a woman's fault for enticing a man into the position where he feels he was 'led on', even if the court wouldn't see it that way? Could a woman ever be blamed for the actions of a rapist, if the rapist was led to believe a certain conclusion was forthcoming, only for it to be withdrawn?
If the green light was withdrawn before the act, then no, she's not to blame.
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Or what if she's walking in a high skirt in a dark alley in a place like ,South Africa for Chicago for instance?
That's extremely foolish, but it doesn't mean she "deserves" to be raped, any more than a gullible person "deserves" to be scammed out of their money. That's how sociopaths think.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:43 AM
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If the green light was withdrawn before the act, then no, she's not to blame.

That's extremely foolish, but it doesn't mean she "deserves" to be raped, any more than a gullible person "deserves" to be scammed out of their money. That's how sociopaths think.

I agree. Now, I do think women (and men) should use better judgment in general to not put themselves in dangerous positions. That doesn't mean you deserve it, however. Threads like these annoy me since it's clear the guy is just trying to do tuff guy politics but is too much of a sperg to execute that without appearing awkward.
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They deserve it the same way one deserves to be robbed when walking alone in a bad neighbour.

What ticks feminists off is not so much that women who put themselves in a dangerous situation end up getting raped though. What they really cannot stand is the fact it is the natural attractiveness of females that lead to rape when wantonly and carelessly flaunted around. As always, they cannot stand the fact that reality doesn't conform to their relativistic world view. "Why is it always women that get raped" or "Why can't i express my sexuality (I.E., why can't i be a slut), without being assailed constantly by oppressive masculine urges" and so and so forth.

This is also why feminists couldn't care less about women getting raped in third world countries. To fight for that cause wouldn't be very satisfying when their underlying object is to subvert normality and turn every value upside down.
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:53 AM
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They deserve it the same way one deserves to be robbed when walking alone in a bad neighbour.

What ticks feminists off is not so much that women who put themselves in a dangerous situation end up getting raped though. What they really cannot stand is the fact it is the natural attractiveness of females that lead to rape when wantonly and carelessly flaunted around. As always, they cannot stand the fact that reality doesn't conform to their relativistic world view. "Why is it always women that get raped" or "Why can't i express my sexuality (I.E., why can't i be a slut), without being assailed constantly by oppressive masculine urges" and so and so forth.

This is also why feminists couldn't care less about women getting raped in third world countries. To fight for that cause wouldn't be very satisfying when their underlying object is to subvert normality and turn every value upside down.

You know, between poasts like these and Glenn Miller, I start to question my sanity with poasting on this board...
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:42 AM
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Deserve might not be the right word but plenty of women ask for it, sure. We may as well say they deserve it, although that may not be the best way to put it if you want to sound high-brow or "respectable".
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