Are Sanctions Hurting Russia?
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kanethenotorious
Phoron
They have to be hurting a bit, but the question is whether they are hurting Russia enough to cost Russia the war. I don't think they are.
Rawhide "Doug" Kobayashi
Сила бога-нам подмога
Almost two years later, we can say with utmost certainty: No, No they are not.
Charles Silvius Haddock
Megaphoron
They hurt in an immediate sense of tanking their currency and seizing their overseas assets. They had the longer term effect of Russia counter-seizing all Globocorp assets of the firms that supported the sanctions and had physical property in Russia, and of the creation of a new interbank system among the BRICS+ countries eventually intended to bypass Western sanctioning ability entirely. The geopolitical scene is again trending toward multipolarity.
Macrobius
Megaphoron
I'm not so sure of this. I think my current analysis is more along the lines of 1/ since the Industrial Revolution ca. 1820 (the end of the Revolutionary period, and first wave of attaqs on Russia)... a pattern has established itself, which is to mix a sort of Enlightenment-style political revolution, as in America, France and later Ireland and Russia with 2/ an urban peasant revolution.
This mixes characteristics of a typical 1381 style Wat Tyler peasant rebellion ('Bolshevism' now, 'Protestant Lollardy' back in the day) with the more 'typical' Enlightenment Revolution. We are now modulating into a third phase, in which 'Wilsonian Progressivism' (as in, Col. House) sort of thing, and the Fed, and the Comtean Positivism of (in this hemisphere) of Brazil or Mexico ca 1910, and the subsequent Neo-Liberal vs Pink Tide battles... approaches the Northern parts of North America, with very well-established patterns.
Macrobius
Megaphoron
Citation: https://thephora.net/phoranova/index.php?threads/are-sanctions-hurting-russia.367/page-4#post-11505
tl;dr - I don't think the outcome is 'multipolar'. I think the Industrial Revolution is inherently a planetary government, but its instability is a problem.
Maybe we need space elevators and L5... NOW.
tl;dr - I don't think the outcome is 'multipolar'. I think the Industrial Revolution is inherently a planetary government, but its instability is a problem.
Maybe we need space elevators and L5... NOW.
Petr
Administrator
It is a sad fact that the Russian peasantry, by and large, made the Bolshevik revolution possible by adopting at least the position of neutrality in the decisive takeover period - sometimes even friendly neutrality. Lenin had calculated correctly that the cynical material bribe of letting poor peasants ransack and occupy the properties of rich landowners would be enough to buy their passive acceptance of the new system, while the Reds were taking over the strategic urban centers.
By the time this bribe, or Communist "carrot," had been eaten and the peasants had started to sour on Bolsheviks, the Red Army and Cheka had already been organized and the usurper government could start applying merciless stick on rural discontent.